Hi, it's Jess Rowe. Are you sick of small talk? Me too. And that's why my podcast is all about
big talk because life is just too crazy and interesting to waste time talking about stuff
that doesn't matter. Every episode I jump past the small talk to go big and deep,
giving you a new window into my famous guests. Keith Urban is a global superstar.
Curtis Stone, you are a man after my own heart. Ursula Carlson is a funny woman. Courtney Act
is a trailblazer. Dani Minogue has crammed a lot into her 50 years. My guest for this episode
is Sophie Monk. David Wenham is one of Australia's best known actors. Introducing the Jess Rowe
Big Talk Show podcast, where I sit down with performers, artists and athletes and dig into
the stuff that matters. I was just in a really not a great place in my life at that time. Yeah,
struggling a lot with things and not in a million years thought somebody like that would
see anything in me. And I don't mean that in some orshucks humble me way. I mean, really, like,
really, truly. So the fact that that became what it was meant to be is astounding. I was extremely
insecure because naturally as a person I'm overboard sensitive. Like I ring someone and worry
about what I've said for like two days and they kind of remember I've said it. From love to loss
and everything in between, I want to skip the small talk and show you a different side of people
who seem to have it all together. I'm trying to do more work on looking inside and working out why
why do I need that validation? Why do I not believe that what I've got to give is enough?
And I wonder if that's going to be a lifetime of work. You know, why do I need that person to
think I'm smart? Why do I need that person to think I'm thin? Why do I need that person to think I'm
funny? Like, yeah, so that's that is definitely a work in progress. I had all of these beautiful
people in my life. They've always been there. And I was never grateful to them. I wish it didn't take
a fire for me to wake up to realise how special they were. But I'm grateful that I realise that
now as well. The Jess Rowe Big Talk Show podcast where real life flaws and vulnerabilities are
celebrated. You didn't have a guy next to you who could have protected you and helped you in
the way that I should have. And for that, I'm always sorry. I should have been more there for
you. So this part of why I'm here today is to apologise to you. I wish I'd been a better person
and a better man and a stronger man, not just for myself, but for you. It's a funny thing what we
miss. It can be the littlest things, you know. And for me, it's having that family time at the
dinner table. It's like that used to be my favourite part of the day. So I don't have that
now. And I think I will get that back. But as I said, I want to wait, you know, a little bit
longer and then maybe down the track, I will fall in love. That would be nice. I get by with the
help of my family, friends, pets, sequins, chocolate and antidepressants. I wear my heart on my sleeve,
overshare and love to connect with people. It keeps me alive. How do you get by?
I think the biggest lesson is just to keep getting back up, keep getting up, keep teaching
yourself new things, keep learning, keep asking questions, keep moving forward and loving yourself
is I think the biggest thing you can do in life. And it's never easy. There are days that, you know,
everything is hard and that's okay. Yeah, just get back up and keep going.
When I was finally able to stand in the truth of who I was and say that who I am is enough
and who I am is correct and who I am is valid, it was such a liberating feeling in that moment.
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