What you're inviting someone to do if you're writing music is to be in the place you were
when you wrote it and feel what you were feeling at the time you wrote it.
And if what you're feeling was true and it was pure, then you're doing a great service
And that's all we can hope for, isn't it?
Hi, I'm Jess Rowe and this is the Jess Rowe Big Talk Show, a podcast that skips the small
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From love to loss and everything in between, I want to show you a different side of people
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Kate Sobrano is a singer, songwriter, performer and artist.
She is one of our most celebrated voices and songwriters.
Kate has just released her 30th album called My Life Is A Symphony.
I've loved Kate's music since I was a teenager and I've always been drawn to her exuberance,
warmth and energy.
And I wanted to talk to Kate about where that vibrancy and joy comes from.
Kate Sobrano, I see your face and I just light up because you are just such a force and you're
spirit, you're music, you're energy. I love it. I want some of it.
Hello. And what a celebration though. Your 30th album, My Life Is A Symphony, it is so
great. It's almost my producer and I were chatting about it. We grew up listening to
your songs and now you've sort of reinvented them to grow with us where we're at in our
I totally feel that. It's all the feels, isn't it? So to stand, can you imagine standing
in the middle of an 80-piece-plus orchestra and have the feeling of your life being put
to music? It's more than I can actually physically handle. I just go, I just leave my body. I
just go into the room and I'm light years away from that tiny little space that's centre
What a sensation for you because you began singing these songs when you were a teenager.
Yes, I've written them often about my experiences. Like for instance, Pash is my first kiss and
it was really, really local. I wanted to make it so colloquial to Australia. I was in the
place, Westfield Shopping Centre. I had that fabulous fragrance of the Coles cafeteria
with hot chips and tomato sauce and the neon lights of brushes and I've had all of the
sounds that were accompanying this epic experience, which was my first kiss, a real kiss. And
literally I felt like Amelie where someone had impacted on me and I was lifted, airlifted
off my feet and then suddenly I could hear a symphony and quite literally to hear a symphony
now playing it. When we do get it to the stage, and this is a four-year project, this has
been a four years in the making, it will feel as though it's a film that's finally come
to fruition after much planning, a lot of arranging and producing in advance and then
an unexpected whack of COVID, which gave us all, I think, a greater sense of ourselves
that when we came out the other side, the world of music had very much changed. Orchestras
had been quite disparate. A lot of orchestral members had to go off and get second gigs
and these are people that have been studying their whole life to be great at something
and then they've had to defer and do something else. It's a very strange time. 300 plus shows
that had to be cancelled and then re-put back on and me at the other end going, well I don't
feel as a pop artist that I should be at all in pole position because these are blokes
who can play Mahler and Beethoven, Tchaikovsky and Debussy. You're wondering like how does...
But Kate, wait a minute, that's downplaying who you are and your incredible skillset.
Don't do that. Well I guess I sort of do it just to couch
in it in terms of significance because it's literally... Do you remember seeing a film
by Shirley MacLaine called Sweet Charity? Yes.
And there was a track that was, if they could see me now, those little friends of mine,
la la la la and she's jumping up and down on the bed. She's actually stripped bare of
all artifice and she's just simply saying, this is what I've lived my whole life for
and perhaps this is what I've been singing those four decades just to find myself here
in pole position with the MSO. Oh, hearing you say that, it just gives me
goosebumps, Kate, to think that here you are now in your full power. Is that how it is for you?
Yeah, well I think we must be of a certain age but I think I'm older than you because
your friend Denise Drysdale and I, we're really good mates, I had to say goodbye to probably our
peers, about four of them this last month, of which Renee, Olivia are two of those. There's
Glenn, John Farnham's manager and I mean literally people that I was planning to live
out the rest of my life with and I'm sure Nisi will feel the same way. So in essence I do feel
like the last of the Mohicans but after a four-year hiatus of not actually doing what I do best,
which is live performance, I did discover different skills within myself that I hadn't
ever asked myself for. And you were painting, weren't you? I was. I was demonstrating the
experience of being a singer who can't sing and so you often ask yourself, even I know that in
the community with disabilities it's the same sort of conversation, well what will you do so you don't
have that skill there available, so what are you going to do and where will you find your inspiration
and I'm very moved by that. So one thing was disabled but another thing was enabled because
of it and I started making these quilts and they were legacy quilts really and I hand embroidered
all of my song lyrics all around them and I've been embroidering all of the interior of these
things that they are in fact my unsung songs and they'll come on tour with me while I go all across
the country with this orchestral tour and they'll be part of my year's work actually and at the end
of the year hopefully I'll have an exhibition. Because I think I've seen a few photos,
magnificent photos of you draped in the quilts. Yeah I thought to myself when things go into a
space we can't control what are the things that are most grounding? They are family, food, comfort,
the hearth and nature. You know essentially if all things were to go you know pear-shaped tomorrow
we would all have to go back to some basic skills. How to survive you know keep ourselves warm and
keep the family close together and I could just see that this was this sort of you know
this symbolic gesture that I was doing which and actually as it turns out it's I think it's what
I've been doing as a singer my whole life is to try to keep people together. So the recording part
of my career has been a means to an end. What the end is is always to have an audience in a room
and that we know by our shared experience that we exist and that we are here and that we are
corporately engaged in this conversation together and it's not just something you can't know,
no amount of money can buy that conversation you know. It's so moving because it's that moment
in time as you say I love that idea of it being a communication between you and the audience and
it's something that you're sharing it's not just one way because you're performing but then the
audience giving back to you and vice versa it continues. I think that's probably where the part
of me comes alive most is when I'm inviting an audience to participate and I often tell them
and I say this lovingly but I'm like you do realise that without you I am but a fart in a
dark because it's the principle of a bear should shit in the woods it's the same thing right
you've got this you've got a witness and I am a witness to their experience and I think from
COVID and I'm sure you'll agree I think what people are wanting now are really real experiences
that they can immerse themselves in feel it on them and ask of them to feel things within
themselves you know we couldn't touch each other we couldn't sing with each other we couldn't stand
near each other hold our children or say goodbye to our loved ones it was you know a disaster of
the humanity of existence and what we have to do as artists now I think is to try to repair that
and we need to do it fast and vigorously so the orchestra is perfect because it's big and it's
loud and it's immersive and I'll be big and loud and private and share many stories about
my inner thoughts. So let's talk about some of those inner thoughts I first of all want to chat
to you about young Kate the teenager on stage looking super cool and just rocking it out.
I'll tell you it couldn't have been more diametrically opposed to that image
because young Kate very shy enormously short-sighted couldn't see a foot in front of my face
terribly bad skin and very anxious socially because I just wanted so much to be liked
that I couldn't actually comfortably sit with any of my favourite friends of whom I classify
Michael Hutchins a great friend of all of that space you know in that time I just couldn't hold
my shit I felt so uncool and the only time I could ever feel that I was cool was when I would exit
her skin and walk into stage skin and from that place I just let myself rip and I would just take
whatever was going on in that day or the day before and I would change the narrative on stage
and correct it she wasn't feeling those things she wasn't being she's just pure primal passion
and thank you for thinking I was cool I really wasn't cool oh I wanted to be you because I
remember I would crank up your songs when I was getting ready to go out with my girlfriends and
I had terrible skin and I would I read somewhere in Dolly magazine that if you used black eyeliner
you could just turn them into beauty spots but then I ended up having like 20 beauty spots all
over my face because of my acne and then I did too you know and I wear one of those wonderful
tight black dresses that you'd be rocking in your film clips as well this is actually how you were
born you were fired and I feel that way too and I say it to my daughter who's having a very similar
experience through puberty that your experience and your interest because you've always been
very social and interested in other people as long as I've known you I think I am too and I think
that's because it was a way to be seen outside of your physical form it was like if I see you
then maybe you'll just see me and not this and I don't know I'd like to think that a better part
of me was made in that baptism oh without a doubt you are so wise Kate how did you get wise I'm
actually just old which is really good I'm happy with old I'm happy so then that as you say the
skin that you were in outside of being on stage has that now I would imagine that's morphed into
you being comfortable in your skin now I have the great luxury of having a child who's now 19 and
also in the same business as me and she's a beautiful singer very very different from me
but we had a shared experience where we went back to the studio where I recorded brave 35 years ago
and she had composed some music and was vocalising in the centre of one of the tracks we were
recording for the album and then came to do bvs on brave and I looked across at her from
the place where I was she was standing where I'd actually been recording the first version of the
song and it was like I don't know how to describe it other than sonic terms I'll try okay
when you're putting down a soundscape for a film if there's a buzz saw in the back or there's a
lawnmower or a plane flies overhead they can actually still film that and then later in post
they reproduce the same sound and did you know it cancels it off the recording no I didn't
it's incredible I don't know really the science behind it but it's if you manage to find the exact
same sound you can actually cancel it out and it's gone and so I think of all the pressures
and the depressions and the anxieties and the social level when we saw one another to me it's
like it cancelled it out and now I feel like you know this experience of brave and doing this 40
years later I have so much more now to give others and in fact I'm taking on a few people
I've been mentoring a few artists for now 10 and 15 years a piece singers and they'll be joining
me on stage in Melbourne for a couple of the songs because I want them to feel what 40 years
feels like with an orchestra and see themselves and really you know manifest that and my daughter
will be joining me as well oh I want to hear more then so gypsy joined you in backing vocals
for brave yeah like how do you handle that in terms of like are you then like her boss so to
speak like if you're thinking oh is she sounding as good as she could or how do you manage that
let me just start by telling you I was raised by a master in martial arts who is in fact the
highest ranked of his style in the world and so his peers were Bruce Lee and a great prophet
actually who if you ever read either he or Muhammad Ali I don't know what they were drinking at the
time in that water where they were but that stuff was insane those men were so incredibly
self-affirmative and for people they spoke for the people my dad was similarly a very very
useful man because he'd demonstrate his care by teaching it and instructing others to care for
themselves does that make sense yes so with gypsy as a singer from the minute she could open her
mouth and sing I honoured her with the job that she could be self-correcting and that if she
were to go into any space she would still meet another Kate or a mum who would say you're either
in tune or you're not I wasn't that woman that would sit there and kind of just say
because it was the sweetest thing to do instead I'd say well if you're here and you're determined
to do this I'm going to tell you the truth you need to tweak the tuning on that so just make that
a little stronger and that little note you'll need some more air so I'm very informative and
I allow her to get that and then she improves it and she listens so she takes that on board I mean
I think about my daughters are a little bit younger they're 14 and 16 and they often don't
take instruction quite as well as that oh well it no well I have to say Jess that the primary
difference with it because that's not a parenting role that's simply being a peer at that point
she's already nominated she wants to sing I wanted her to know that if she wants to be in that space
then she will be confronted with an element of quality control that's going to be fierce and
it's going to be fast and it has to be done because people are paying for that experience
with parenting I let her get away with everything that makes me feel better no no no I'm completely
indulgent I mean honestly I'm only one of them can you imagine it's like oh no but as a professional
that's why I was saying my dad informed me how to behave in that space as a parent I've been
informed by my grandmother Kathleen and my grandmother said you can't spoil a child with
love and so I indulged her and have indulged her but to me that's so beautiful that is such
a great saying you can never love someone too much and I know and I agree and that's not indulging
that's the stuff of life and that gives people a sense I think of security and knowing hey I'm
loved unconditionally so I'm then safe to then go and pave my own way and if I make mistakes
it's okay because I'm still loved yes that's right that's beautiful and actually if I was
going to tell you something that I feel music the role it plays in society is that it's that feeling
of love with that is without words that's how it is it nurtures a part of us that is repaired
through that kind of love it does it's a love without words and I think like you what you
just mentioned if you can express that in the way you live and you you set an example of that then
you are in essence I don't know you are being your own song oh yes you're being your own song
Kate you need to write a song saying you are being your own song well it's actually I was
thinking I this this sounds like a funny thing like meaning like I set this up I didn't actually
mean to do this there is a song on the album called Louie song and my brother Phil and his
wife Angela are about to have a baby now they've been trying for a long time and they've taken a
great deal of effort through IVF over a period of six years maybe even more I'm not sure and they're
five weeks away from having a baby now Helen who was my oldest brother's first wife when she had
a baby and it was the first of the clan we all sat I don't know what on earth possessed us this
bunch of rock and rollers we all sat in the room with her waiting for her to have this baby which
you know we all imagined was sort of like ours Louie was ours Louie was the first of all the
clan and he literally felt like we were all having the baby of course Helen doesn't see it that way
we talk about it a lot and in the verse it says Louie your life has just begun and your song is
about to be written so listen closely to the choir and let your song sing let your song ring
let your life bring you everything just by being and by knowing that this song is you
and that was the song I gave Louie in gratitude for letting us all parent him what a gift what a
gift that you have given him but also that you give all of us you have written in your memoir
quite a lot of stuff in there that I know that your husband Lee Rodgers was saying at the time
he was like oh do we really want all of this in there yeah tell us a bit about that kind of rock
and roll life and what that was like during that time well I think I'm going to write a better book
soon it's no diss on the gentleman who ghost wrote that book for me I don't know why I deferred the
power of writing I am a songwriter I should have just written it myself actually I would have
changed it and put it in a voice where I I probably could understand why rather than just the detailed
events I would have couched it showing the circumstances and I think a lot of people
and you'll agree a lot of people make choices because they're trying to solve a problem
and whatever problem that is is so unique to their experience that you couldn't even
invent it if you tried and then the outcome is simply it's just the sad truth of what the person
tried to do in an effort to solve a problem and a lot of the book in there and the things that were
said and done were one version of how that appeared but I actually now I I don't actually
accept that the version is is authentic enough so I'm rewriting that so what would you how would
you rewrite it then what would you say I'd start with the times and I'd start with the problems that
a person in that time and with those very unique circumstances was trying to face and confront at
the time for instance it wasn't anybody's fault it was wonderful that at 15 I became a star
but there are complexities to becoming famous young and what do you do when suddenly you feel
that you're not famous and you're only halfway through your life talk to a footy player at the
third stroke of their existence that's the end of a fully fledged professional career
I listened in awe at Colin Hay at the APRA awards and Colin was explaining how
they had this blooming nuclear success and then suddenly it had reached its ceiling
and it just stopped and there was no rhyme or reason for it there were circumstances yes
unwellness within the band you know and he had to find psychologically how he would recover
and reform his existence from that moment to zero and build his way back up to where he is today
and he said that the person that he's ended up becoming is the person that he always wanted to
be which is alive isn't it and we have to though go through I think all of that kind of crap and
hardship to get to the person that we are today indeed and let's all pray and hope that that
person we are today is a person you set off to want to become and is the person you want to be
the person that you are now Kate I mean I loved you posted on social media recently about menopause
where you were talking about the thoughts that come in the middle of the night the where the
what ifs the why nots the should have we have done things explain that to me are there some
things that you think oh what if or I should have I think menopause is a very abstract concept it's
something that I've yet to understand I don't know why it exists or for what purpose other than to
tell the world that you no longer can enjoy wine sex or exercise because it seems to be that any
of those things provoke it's like if you were in nature and David Attenborough was describing
now this animal right now is repelling all partners and mates for reasons inexplicable to
man I don't really understand you know it's just like one minute you're just loving and
enjoying being in close proximity the next means I don't touch me I'm like you know I've gone from
being like the hugger to being that you know in a 2000 plus autograph sign it just please don't
could you just I just need a some space and I started making my own fans and it's inexplicable
to me I mean it's just like it's just the world's worst joke I don't get it so what am I learning
from this and what am I taking away I think that dread that one gets in the middle of the night
I think it should if you if you can should be healthful healthfully if there's such a word ignored
and you should try in all efforts if you can to just change something in that moment find whatever
that is you probably have great advice on that oh but for you though what is that you're not
menopausal yet yes I am I now do and I love it I rub gel in my arms and I take a tablet and it's
great it's changed it's made such a difference for me I'm on the brink trust me oh I'm on the
I'm actually I've listened and spoken to a lot of different people we'll see how far I can get I'm
with you I think that you really need to speak to someone you trust and I think you really need to
because these as I said when I say change it I'm not saying that that's actually even possible
because menopause is such an enigmatic well it's part of us I mean it's part of what happens to
women isn't it I'm 52 and my mum I was talking to my mum about oh I'm so irritable and I'm not an
irritable person no I'm really I would be getting hot and I couldn't sleep and tossing and turning
and that waking up in the middle of the night and my mum said go and talk to your doctor
I'm sure you know it's menopause there's a way through this and I did and it's made obviously
it's a personal thing people choose what's right for them but it has helped me enormously I feel
just a lot more even Kate that sounds magnificent and if I'm desperate to go and have a little bit
of a crack at that because I thought I was managing it well but you don't need to manage
it on your own I think well this is the point there's a point where you're thinking like it's
something that's like fundamentally understood but I told you I actually say it's enigmatic
because sometimes it's not there and then you go I'm through it's done and then it comes back and
then it comes back so I think it's time we just have a little look and to see how I want to live
out the rest of these next few years and and I have a lot to do so your husband Lee he's a
director is he still your manager yeah we work together it's sort of like we go I want to say
we don't like to discuss it like management because we're more like a multimedia partnership
he came in it as a director and a producer so he's more like a film producer actually
I'm the artistic director and the creative and we become this department where we work that way
and when we put it in those terms it doesn't cause that rub that I know that you were alluding to
there that you'd think oh artist management that doesn't feel good but at the moment what we have
is this really great team and we share our skills and move them around isn't that good so I mean it
works for you both yeah yeah it does I mean we got better at it because we hosted and ran a
broadcast from home through covid and look it's tense and I'm a very potent vivid latin girl
and my husband's a very placid pragmatic northern beaches boy we really shouldn't work he's an
Aries I'm a scorpion I mean you could anyone will tell you oh no oh no
but if life's taught me one thing if you want something and then you can architect your dreams
based on the house you want to live in there are houses that you could move into
because they were said so they were good for you but you could effectively be the architecture of
your own home again that's such a beautiful image I've read Kate that you've described
yourself as exhausting for people for people around you it's true because I seem to have an
endless supply of things to do like I was raised from people that you know do something go and
occupy yourself entertain yourself travel go find things my grandfather was a lover of trains planes
buses and you know he would read railway timetables for entertainment and so it was
an endless sort of source of you know you couldn't just say I'm bored or I've got nothing to do well
go and find something to do you know and so I've just made an art form of that and other people
around me who they actually understand that there's there's a time when you can actually relax
I find I'd rather stab myself in the eye than go on holiday really so how do you relax do you stop
I have stations I think maybe even COVID gave me a great excuse for something I've always done like
I call it Kate droppings because I will rotate my system of creativity to different things and
there's you know a dressing room where I'll design an outfit or work out what I'm going to do for the
next five gigs ahead and I'll play in that space and then I'll go to the music room in the music
room I go to write and then study piano and and just play and and jam with my friends and
then I go out into the studio where the quilts are there waiting for me to just go back in and
start you know and I just do this on rotation all day and then go off and do gigs and then come back
and then I just go straight into the space that's been a good a good way because now I don't have to
invite my whole village to have to participate I can just simply do those things too on my own so
the child is able to play on her own now these days too so we're good
we were okay and you can nurture that creativity that spirit that you have within yourself and
that's powerful too I think it is yes I think that if you know that that is what you do and
you're content with the idea that your creation is so is so original to you I mean in the end
of the day at the end of the day rather you'd like to know that the things you've left behind
no one else could have made but you and that's what that's what we do
and you do that so beautifully you talk as well a lot about family and how close you are as a family
what does family mean to you and for you well I'd like to think that I mean family
it does change when you get married I always thought we'd live in the same house and we'd
all just get married and stay there I don't know it's just this weird but then one day we all just
went and when you say family means a lot to me I've found that the families we've become
separate whilst still very much apart but we are like a global community we each of us own our own
little planets over here my brother's doing very very well with his wife she's in marketing and
together the two are like they are actually like Lee and I in terms of their creative team ship
and my eldest brother similarly he runs a whole chain of karate schools for kids
and he and his wife run that and now Lee and now Gypsy now too she's starting to get into that
space where she's going to require someone who understands her industry well she's a unique little
she's just her music is wow it's celestial it's amazing what is it like too at the stage that I
suppose Gypsy's at at 19 she's really spreading her wings she's taking off she's making her way
in the world how do you make sense of that and reconcile that in terms of either wanting her
close or being able to let her go I think that's a conversation you and I all have in 10 years time
and then you'll tell me how it went too I think that's a really like it's it happens
it happens but it happens slow enough to be able to deal with that
and I think that it'll instruct you just in the same way that having a baby you know by the end
of my I don't know what your child birthing experience was like by then I'm like oh just
save the baby I'm checking out I simply can't do this there's no way I'm going to survive
I'm not going to survive such a drama queen I am and I had this feeling you know in my child
being an only one that I wasn't going to be able to let her go but I find that she
vaulted independently out from my arms before I even thought about it just she was off and running
and who am I to stop a bird in flight it's nature and she's flying and she's up there
now if the bird was hopping and couldn't get up off the ground and needed assistance like that
would be great because then I could just like foster and love and nurture and you know get there
right down on all fours but she sprouted her wings and she's off and I also think it's almost it's a
series of letting goes as you say it's it's those gradual things that's from the very beginning
from the moment they're born that's right that's right I actually I didn't recognise that it would
feel this way obviously when I was growing up and leaving my home and leaving my mum and my
grandmother I'd often go overseas you know from the age of 16 and 17 I was travelling a lot
and I had no sense of their sadness or loss I'm the youngest and the only girl I had no
sentimentality about it at all so I don't know why I would expect that I'd feel this way but I do
I feel sentimental about it I often actually see other people and their newborns
and it ages me to think I'll never have another newborn in my arms and so I paint a lot a lot of
this experience in fact I've got like a lot of my paintings almost like a shrine to my reproductive
system. The love of and the loss of. It's true. To show you one time.
I love your love. Oh my god. I love your love. That's gorgeous. That is so gorgeous.
Oh I'm just thinking about these paintings. I know oh my god when you see it it's it's quite
self-evident what I'm saying yeah and finally what I do want to talk to you about is spirituality
yeah because I know you're a Scientologist and I've read how you've said that it's teachings have
played a big role in shaping who you are today right in what way it's interesting Jess I don't
talk as much as I would like to about the subject because I I feel unfairly burdened by the idea
like I'm the poster child for the church and I don't think that that's actually I'm not a
celebrity I'm an artist they're quite two different things for me and that my private thoughts about
spirituality it can't help but polarise people because they have their own vision of what
religion or spirituality means for them when we put it in the in terms of and I very so I don't
actually discuss it when I'm usually doing music interviews but you're a very broad spectrum
communicator and so with you I'll tell you this much I feel that in the world there has to be a
part of us that feels there's something that is kind and eternally hopeful and whatever you
want to call that thing it's in all of us to be those two things and if we don't continue to work
to be both kind and hopeful then we will see the end of civilization as we know it
and so that's a very existential conversation and it is you could say in the realm of religion but
people don't want to call it that but I think that all the great religions all they've ever
really sought if they were truly religious in nature is that they were kind and that there was
hope for men and you are an incredibly kind person Kate oh not always really no there's always see
this is where I enlist help and anyone should if they feel that they could be better at being
kinder and that their despair wasn't drowning them in a sea of sorrow because there's a lot
to be sad for in this world Jess there's a lot and if you're in the arts and you're feeling it
and each and every day you're an empath which you are and I am then how do you hope for things how
do you do that it takes a lot of self-discipline and a lot of work and I think we all need to
work harder at doing that and discover where the hope is within us so how do you do that then where
do you find it oh it that and that is another we will go into another conversation another time
about that but I can tell you it's in music and and people find it in music every day
I think that the more honest a person is as a musician then the more truth we get and they
like Beethoven once said you know what you're inviting someone to do if you're writing music
is to be in the place you were when you wrote it and feel what you were feeling at the time you
wrote it and if what you're feeling was true and it was pure then you're doing a great service
for mankind and that's all we can hope for isn't it well Kate you've done that because you have
given me so much hope and not only me so many women and men but I think of women of sort of
my generation you exude as I said at the start love and joy generosity of spirit generosity of
heart and thank you for reimagining the songs that were the soundtracks of my teenage years and many
other teenage years again and we can you know travel through those moments in the past but
also now and who we're going to be becoming and I think that is what is exciting what is next for
you and what is next I think for women of a certain age because I love it and I think we need to
embrace that and you embody that so thank you Kate well I think you need to author that book
Becoming I think that's a great title it's a great place to start thank you gee it's wonderful
chatting with you Kate thank you for your time no worries thanks for having me darling thank you
oh so much love oh my goodness I just walk away from that chat feeling lighter thinking about
hope and thinking about what really matters and I tell you what I also can't wait to see Kate's
paintings that she's talking about I think that really will be quite something to behold now Kate's
30th album My Life is a Symphony it is so beautiful it does give you goosebumps it is a
breathtaking celebration of her songwriting featuring her most iconic songs and personal
favourites from across her four decade recording career can you believe that that amount of time
in the business and these songs they've been reimagined with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra
there really is something for everyone in this beautiful album and if you want to catch Kate in
concert head to her website katesabrano.com and there are tour dates there for more big conversations
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