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Caitlin Ford, welcome to Straight Talk.
I think that's that competitive nature.
I want to get the better of my opponent.
If you would have asked me when I was in school
having to sell chocolates to make money to go play football,
I wouldn't think I would be where I am today and what I've done.
I think I'm sort of imagining the pressure that must be on them to kick that goal.
I can't imagine what it's like when you knew all of Australia was watching.
Does it put more edge on it?
Yeah, that drives us as well now to have some silverware for our success.
You said silverware.
I'm looking for goldware.
I want gold as well.
Caitlin Ford, welcome to Straight Talk.
Thank you very much.
I'm actually quite thrilled to have you here, to be honest with you.
I've never had a person who represents something,
a sport that's become so...
so significant in Australia in such a...
in my view anyway, such a short period in the studio.
We had lots of rugby league guys and all that sort of stuff,
but women's football, I won't call it soccer,
is like a phenomenon now in Australia,
has been since in my world.
I'm a rugby league dude, but it has become in my world
since probably the Matildas last year.
It's been a big deal.
All of a sudden in my life and probably everybody else's life.
So thanks for coming in.
It's a big thrill for me.
No, thank you for having me.
It's an honour to be the first, I guess, female footballer as well.
So I'm excited to be here and have a chat.
That's pretty cool.
How's your injury, by the way?
Yeah, my injury's...
It's not as bad as, I guess, what it seemed being ruled out
for the second game.
We had a long travel and off the back of a long season over in England,
and I think we arrived on the Wednesday morning,
had a game on Friday, and it kind of pulled up tight after that game,
and it built me into nicely into the first Matildas game in Adelaide.
But, yeah, as soon as I got out there, it just didn't feel right.
So in my head, with history, with soft tissue injuries,
I knew this isn't the time to risk it, so I just sat down,
and I guess that comes with my maturity and experience.
How old are you now?
Oh, my God, that's maturity.
And then, yeah, they just didn't want to risk it for the second game,
which I was happy with that as well.
I was disappointed not to be out there and play in Sydney at Stadium Australia
because it's an awesome stadium to play at.
We have a lot of memories there as well, but the girls did an amazing job,
and I was happy to sit there and watch it and enjoy it as well.
And the actual injury, you said it's a soft tissue.
Or is it a – what are we talking about here?
Well, we didn't actually get me a scan because they just wanted to treat clinically
how it looked, and a scan before the game wasn't going to change
if I played or not anyways.
And I've got a bit of time off now, so they just thought we'll treat it
as it is a tear because I have the time to build it up and just get strong.
And what does that mean, build it up?
You speak about that.
It meant obviously you guys are dealing with injuries all the time
because that's pretty –
typically if anybody's putting so much pressure on themselves all the time,
like in terms of training and playing.
And when you play in the UK, like you play a lot.
It's not like – you play more than once a week.
I often hear it on SBS3, which is the BBC.
They talk about football in the UK, men's and women.
And it seems like the amount of times you play is a lot more than like once a week.
What is the cadence of your UK obligations when it comes to playing footy?
Yeah, the schedule is hectic and it's a very long season,
especially if you're in all competitions.
So, for example, this year we will be in Champions League
because we finished third in the league just gone.
That means we have to go through the qualification stage.
So our season will actually start earlier than everyone else to start, I guess,
a group stage of Champions League to try and get out of that to get to the next round.
So we'll start with that, then the season, and then if you're in the Conti,
the FA Cup, the FA Cup.
So that's all competitions.
Yeah, you play on the weekend, you play midweek, play on the weekend,
and that's kind of ongoing nearly every week, if not every second week.
So there's a lot of games.
There's a lot of minutes to be played.
That's why it's nice to be at a club like Arsenal where you have so many good players
and there is rotation to get through all those games because it isn't possible.
It's a high demand.
And when I was speaking before about –
About build-up, I guess I have a bit of a time to deload now after the long season.
I'll have about two weeks off, but with the little injury.
I know it's not much, but for me that's a luxury.
Yeah, so with the injury, it would just be about being in the gym, getting strong.
So then when I get back on the pitch, I'll be ready to go.
So you say you're 30.
If I take you back to when you were sort of like a kid, where did you grow up?
I'm from down the coast, Rilla, Shell Harbour area.
So I grew up around there.
Just as a normal kid, there was no football in my life.
I was actually rugby league as well.
I wanted to play rugby league when I was younger, but my nan didn't let my mum.
She said if she did, she would never speak to me again.
And I was devastated because I was a rugby league girl, grew up watching it,
and that's what I wanted to do as well.
So, yeah, the focus had to turn to something else.
And, yeah, that was fortunate.
Football, touch football, Oztag, athletics, everything under the sun.
I wanted to do everything.
Did you play soccer though, like girls football?
Yeah, not until I was nine years old, and that was with the local boys team.
It was myself and another girl from school, and then we played against the boys as well.
I always wonder about when a girl wants to play rugby league,
like you did, I often wonder what is the influence.
Is it because they had an older brother who was playing footy
or what's the reason?
Why did you love rugby league and contact sports generally?
It's hard to answer because there wasn't really anyone in my family
that had played sport at the high level.
My mum loves Manly Seagulls, so I got brainwashed as a kid to watch football,
to go to the games, to support Manly, and that's what I grew up watching and seeing,
and that's what I wanted.
That's what I wanted to do.
I wanted to be out there, and I wanted to play football.
I used to want to be the ball kid.
I wanted to just be involved.
But yeah, I think I was just very competitive as a kid,
and I wanted to do anything and everything,
and football just stemmed from in the back playground with the boys at school.
I did whatever they did.
If they were playing rugby league, I was playing rugby league.
If they were playing football, I was doing that.
Yeah, I guess I was good at it.
My sister seen I was good at it.
I wanted to play with them on the weekends and, yeah,
just ask mum if I could join and play soccer with them.
And when it comes to soccer, I mean, I've never had-
I know, I'm switching back and forth because I'm saying football,
rugby league, football.
Well, we'll call it women's football.
Probably one way of talking about it because it is football.
I mean, especially if you're in Europe, you're going to talk about it,
you're going to refer to it as football.
Soccer, football, it doesn't really matter, but let's call it football.
And did you sort of think-
because it's a completely different rugby league though.
So rugby leagues are much more-
you play the man, you don't play the ball, whereas in football you're playing-
soccer, you're playing the football, you're playing the ball.
Did you ever sort of think to yourself, it's not physical enough for me?
I actually sort of want to get a bit more physical?
I think if- when you kind of see the way I play, I am physical.
I like to get stuck in and I'm one of the first ones in the team
to have that big hit and make that challenge.
And I think that stems from rugby league and-
Your frustration to be a footy player.
Maybe, it stayed within.
So, yeah, I think if you spoke to any of the girls, most of them would say,
if we need like that big hit and kind of that lead in that way,
it would most likely probably come from me.
And that's kind of a balance I've had to figure out along the way,
because, you know, if you're too aggressive in soccer, you get a yellow
card and then once you're on a yellow card, it makes it quite of a game where
you have to pull back from how you naturally want to play to avoid getting a
another one. So, yeah, it works in my favour and sometimes it doesn't.
Yeah, because I often wondered about that.
Like, sometimes you see some of the Eastern European sides and men's at least
that I've watched, pretty aggressive.
Like you see the Serbian sides, the various sides from around that area.
The big guys, really aggressive, sort of intimidating, sort of play intimidating
footy. Often it lands them in trouble.
I've watched you play, you're sort of a bit of an aggressor, relatively speaking,
I'm talking about. Is that more your personality or is that the style that suits
your physicality and your talent the best?
Yeah, no, I'm completely different.
I'm the most calm, chilled person, not aggressive at all off the field.
So, yeah, I guess once I'm out there, that's just me out there.
That's how I play. That's how you get the best out of me.
How I, yeah, when I'm playing at my best, I guess I'm just very aggressive and confident
and, yeah, want to take people on.
And I don't know, it's just, I think that's that competitive nature.
I want to get the better of my opponent and in my head sometimes I want to make him look
silly. And that's what I try and do.
Yeah, because I remember, I don't know if you remember, you might not remember the
particular individual, but if I can go back to rugby league, there was a guy called
Adrian Morley, he used to play for the Roosters, but he was an English guy.
And he is and was the nicest bloke off the field you'd ever meet in your life.
But when he got on the field, he sort of, his eyes rolled to the back of his head and
you could sort of see the whites of his eyes and he turned into a bit of a fearless guy,
like completely fearless.
And I know the Roosters always turned to him when there was trouble.
He's the guy I'd step up.
Do you change who you are once you get on that field?
Because like I'm sitting here now, you are chilled.
And when you, but when you get on the field, it doesn't look like the same person to me.
Yeah, no, I think it is.
I think it's just what switches and that's ever since I've been younger as well.
I think I was just born with that.
It was just within me when it comes to sport.
Yeah, I guess I do turn into a different person, maybe similar to what you mentioned.
But yeah, I don't know.
It's just, that's what happens once I cross that line, once the game starts and at the
end of it, you know, you're all friends.
It's what's left out.
It happens, happens.
That's what's in every sport.
Even when you refer to a rugby league player, I don't know if you know Jackson Hastings
He played for us for a while.
I grew up with him.
His dad was one of the legends of the club that I, Horry Hastings, his dad was.
Yeah, so my mum was dating him.
That's what I mean, Jackson.
Kind of like brother and sister almost.
And we used to play rugby league and soccer as well.
And I didn't hold back.
And you can ask him today as well.
I used to make him cry.
Because it was just like, I'm going to show you I'm better than you.
And that's who I used to play rugby league with.
I wanted to beat him.
And yeah, we laughed.
He's a pretty skilled guy, you know.
We laugh today because he's like, you used to make me cry when we were younger.
But it was the same.
He was competitive as well.
And if I got the better of him, he didn't like it.
So therefore, if you were to describe yourself in terms of soccer style, because, you know,
it's a bit like boxing styles.
I think in football, like you're a rugby league supporter.
You would have watched the State of Origin.
You saw the two different styles of the way the teams have been picked.
You saw Billy Slater picked his speed and all that sort of stuff.
And Maggi, he picked a big, tough, sort of intimidating group.
And they were both betting their particular style would win.
Two totally different styles.
When you describe yourself, and I know you're in a team sport.
But still, they look to you at a certain time.
How would you describe yourself, Caitlin Ford?
How would you describe yourself?
How would you think someone else would describe you as a footballer?
It's funny you say that because we've done a lot of work at Arsenal.
We've sitting down with your teammates and telling them what they're good at.
And they'll tell you what you're good at to, you know, get the best out of each other.
And I guess give each other confidence.
All my teammates have said that my aggression, my 1v1 dribbling, like taking players on.
1v1 being one on one?
So I'm a winger on the left wing, say, and my opposite opponent is the right back.
So when people can see it's just me and her, that she doesn't have any cover,
they'll want to give me the ball because they know that, I don't know,
nine, eight times out of 10, I'll probably get past them.
So that's one of my strengths.
And then, yeah, there's another one, a few goals that I've scored where I take the player
down the line and then cut back in and then finish far post.
So people say that's kind of my signature goal as well.
But, yeah, I'd say those are my strengths and I think, yeah, bringing other players
into the game as well.
I don't want anyone from the upcoming Olympics to listen to this,
but do you have weaknesses?
Do you do the same exercise?
Do they say, you know, by the way, Caitlin, this is what you're not real good at?
We haven't done that one.
That might be to come.
But that one I think will be harder.
It's always easier telling someone what their strengths are, their weaknesses.
Yeah, that's a bit more difficult.
Do you feel as though you have to train to something?
Is there something you, when you're training, when you're, you know,
in your own time, are you saying to yourself, well,
here's something I can get better at and I want to get better at this
from a perfectionist point of view?
I want to become really good at blah, blah, blah,
as opposed to what you're already really good at?
I mean, the first thing that pops into my mind is a penalty shootout,
which everyone has seen.
When I was younger, I used to take penalties and I missed once
and I never wanted to take one again.
I didn't take one for years because it wasn't even important.
It was like for school.
It was something like that.
And I think that falls back to when I'm not good at something,
And I felt like, I guess in that moment, I wasn't good at it.
And it wasn't until the Rio 2016 Olympics,
we went to a penalty shootout with Brazil.
I didn't take one at the time we lost the shootout,
but it was down to me and Alana Kennedy.
And we both weren't prepared for that moment.
And I've never been so nervous in my whole entire life
because I knew I wasn't prepared to take one.
From that moment at school, I won't take one again,
but there will come a time where I have to.
And that was that time.
And I never wanted to feel like that ever again.
So after that moment, I practiced my penalty.
And leading into the World Cup, we knew to go through a major tournament,
to win a major tournament,
you have to go to a penalty shootout at one point.
And I never wanted to feel like that ever again.
So that whole lead up, I mean, the whole team,
we all practiced a penalty after every single training session with the keepers.
So then when we got to that moment, I didn't feel any nerves at all
and I was the first one to step up and take it.
And that moment for me was really rewarding
because I thought back to when I was younger and, yeah,
I just never wanted to do it again and I'll overcome that hurdle.
And I think that's with, yeah, anything now.
I just want to be prepared for everything.
That's interesting.
You say you practice for it.
I mean, I don't play, I've never played soccer,
so I don't know what that means.
But how do you practice for a penalty?
Like you know that the goalie's going to be there,
you're going to try and stop it whichever direction you're going.
You're trying to, when you're setting up,
do you know which way the goalie operates?
Do you know something about that?
Have you studied that goalie in terms of your preparation?
Do you know that that goalie goes to the left or the right,
likes to jump high, got big wingspan?
I mean, what are you thinking strategically?
It's funny you say that because when I was in that moment
at the Rio Olympics,
I was trying to watch the keeper to, if I had to take one,
where am I going to go?
And after the penalty shot was taken,
I'd already forgotten because my nerves had taken over.
I didn't even know.
I was like all over the place.
But as a penalty taker, you're the one kicking it.
You're in control.
It's the keeper that the pressure's on.
And I think that's what some people look at the keeper and they'll decide off that.
But I just think if you choose your spot,
you hit it well enough.
If they pick the right way,
if you hit it enough in the corner,
you're going to get it.
If you hit it in the corner or high enough in the corner,
they're not going to save it.
So for me, it just comes down to practicing my shot,
hitting my shot, no matter what way the keeper's going.
But there are a few girls I know,
they look at the keeper and then go off that
because some keepers do move earlier than others.
Some guess, some wait.
It's all mind games, really.
Yeah, there's a lot of mind games.
But the worst mind game would be in your own mind.
It's as soon as you start chopping and changing in your head,
that's when it normally doesn't go well.
Yeah, because I'm,
I'm dying to know, like, let's go back to Rio.
Like, well, let's go, no, let's go back to the World Cup.
So do you just go, did you just go,
I'm going to put it in the corner, right-hand corner,
up, lower, whatever it is, and that's what I'm going to do.
I'm not going to overthink it.
Is that the process?
Yeah, I had had my practice.
I'd hit that pen a thousand times before it happened.
So the moment I stepped up, you know,
you have your routine that you go through.
You run up to the ball, which if you watch mine,
it's like I'm going to hit a rugby league kick because that's how I used to practice.
So that's how I line it up.
And yeah, I just went through my motions and what I'd practice.
It was just like routine and yeah, to hit it perfectly.
It was, yeah, very rewarding.
And yeah, I guess a massive moment for me personally as well to have that.
I mean, a lot of people didn't know the background leading into it, but for myself,
that was, yeah, I'd done my job.
You got the bogeyman off your back.
Yeah, but as soon as the pens were gone because it went so long,
I started to get my own head because if it goes around everyone,
it comes back to the start.
And I was thinking, what am I going to do?
What am I going to do?
But I probably would have hit the same pen.
Is it a bit like, I mean, maybe, I don't know if you've ever hit a golf ball,
probably have because you're one of those sporty type people,
probably hit the ball in every sort of aspect, tennis, golf, everything.
Is it like when you kick, hit the ball,
with your foot, is it like, can you feel that I've hit the sweet spot?
Is there a sound or a feel or something that you can, that's it, I got it?
No, there is a sweet hit.
You can feel it and you can hear it as well sometimes,
but you know as soon as it hits your foot if it's going to be good or not.
So you're sort of, and is there an anxiety moment like just before you hit it
or you just rip in like, you know, like that?
As I said, I had no nerves.
I had nothing and it was just because I was so prepared for it.
I think I was, to be honest, I wasn't nervous throughout the whole penalty shootout.
I knew we were going to win that because we were prepared for it
and to have Mac Green go, she's one of the best in the world at penalties.
So to have her in there, I knew she was going to save some.
We just had to score ours.
I mean, I don't know, but like if you had have missed it,
what do you think the outcome would have been?
Yeah, I don't know.
I probably never would have wanted to take one again.
And who makes the decision who does take the penalty goals?
For that one, the coach, Tony, he did.
So I didn't know I was going to be first penalty taker.
He just said, do you want to go first?
Oh, you don't know from in the beginning of the game.
Well, no, we didn't.
I guess everyone was prepared.
So yeah, everyone would have been ready,
but I didn't know until that moment when you have that little break
and we get in a circle.
He said, will you take the first one?
And then he went around to everyone else, like up to 10,
the order of taking pens.
That would have been fairly sort of confronting.
I mean, mind you, you just played 90 minutes plus.
Yeah, that's right.
So at that stage, your nerves are all gone
because you've been playing the whole time.
You're probably saying, well, just let me at it.
I mean, as opposed to, my God, you're just fresh on the field.
It'd be different if it was sort of the beginning of the game.
I just can't imagine the pressure that's on you because, I mean,
I just go back to rugby league games when it's like 10 all
and it's like the last minute you score, you know, you're kicking a goal.
I think to myself, look at these guys, the young guys too, your age,
and I think to myself, imagine the pressure that must be on them
to kick that goal.
And like I wouldn't be able to kick it for my life depending on it,
but that sort of pressure.
I can't imagine what it's like when you knew all of Australia was watching.
Well, that's the thing, we didn't.
We didn't know how many people were watching until afterwards.
We knew who was in the stadium and who was watching there,
but the extent of how many eyes were on it, I think maybe if I knew that,
I probably would have been a little bit more nervous,
but it was good that we didn't know that.
Can you remind me, what date, what time of year was it again?
The World Cup was June, July, so.
Can I just remember, I can know, I know exactly where I was.
One of those moments.
I was at Allianz Stadium and I was watching a rugby league game.
Roosters playing, so I can't remember who we were playing.
And I can, there's no, no, no, no lie.
Every time something happened that you guys did,
the whole stadium must have been watching on their phones
and they were yelling and screaming,
but it had no relevance to the game that was going on in front of us.
In fact, some players could look up at the stadium a few times,
what the hell, everyone's cheering.
It was just a nothing.
It was just a fourth tackle, third tackle, something like that.
And everybody was cheering off their phones.
Like I was sitting in a row of guys,
at least three of them had their phones going
and watching the game at the same time.
So like diehard rugby league people, you know,
they're there for their team.
Everybody across the country was watching it.
I mean, you guys obviously didn't know because you're out there playing,
but does that give you now a higher awareness of the importance
of how you guys perform and does it put more edge on it?
And I think that drives us as well now to want to have some silverware
We've known for a very long time how good we are as a team,
but yeah, it's now that Australia has noticed it as well
and that is off the back of the World Cup
and to have that opportunity here and be a part of that is incredible.
And like you said, to have, you know,
grown men that love rugby league watching us stop and watch them,
you know, watch them play.
The footy to watch our game and I know at the AFL they had it
on the big screens and, you know, we've seen the live sites
and then moving the news to broadcast our game.
Like it's just stuff that's unheard of.
And yeah, if you would have asked me three years ago,
I would have been like, you're making it up.
That's never going to happen.
I don't think it will really fully sink in probably until we retire
Really look back on our career and see how big that moment was.
It has only happened in the last couple of years.
I mean, what is it about the Matildas?
Nothing has changed.
I think it was just to have the opportunity here in Australia.
I mean, those tournaments are normally, you know, say Rio,
where Germany, like the hours of the games,
are at 2am, 3am when they're over there and, you know,
you don't capture as much people, just watch the highlights the next day.
But to have it here, to have it in front of everyone, not only us,
I know the other games as well, felt like home games for some nations as well.
And that's just Australia being so multicultural.
Everyone got around it and it is just such amazing tournament.
And I think, you know, for then us to be successful along the way,
you couldn't not watch.
So a lot of the girls in your team, your colleagues,
they play in club football like you do at Arsenal.
And you get to see all the other players from around the world
who make up these various teams in the UK, for example.
Yeah, we're good, I think.
Man for man, though.
Are we really right?
Because aren't you someone like you would know?
You're amongst it every week.
So I'd say our...
Our downfall in past years was having depth in the squad.
In terms of injury, you mean?
No, just players to pick from.
I would say we had a good starting 11, two or three subs.
And then, no offence, but people weren't ready.
And that's, you know, not playing in high competitions and stuff like that.
And that's what we struggled with.
We'd go really well through the group stage.
And then when it got to the, you know, important games, we were all exhausted.
We couldn't have a rest against, say, a weaker opponent
because it wasn't an easy game for us.
We had to play our strongest team every game to win.
And now we can rotate players.
We have the depth to, you know, after 60 minutes, take people off,
rest them for the next game because the job's done.
That's just not how it was before.
And I think that's the biggest change for us, for, you know,
the Matildas to have a good squad.
You can play anyone and we'll still be strong.
How many people get – I think it's 24, isn't it?
How many do they choose in the Olympic side?
The Olympics is even smaller, so it's 18.
So that's only 16 outfield players and two goalkeepers.
And, yeah, we'll play every second day.
So it's going to be an even harder schedule.
The competition's over within two weeks.
And if somebody gets injured in that squad, can you –
has to go back home, for example.
I don't want to make a silly example.
If somebody does a permanent injury for the whole series,
are you allowed to bring someone back in from Australia?
No, so we'll have four players that are alternates that come along.
One will be a goalkeeper, three outfield players.
They'll stay with us throughout the whole tournament.
But the last moment you can make a change is 24 hours before the first game.
After that, that's your squad.
And you must play.
If, you know, you lose a player to injury, then we're one player less.
That's very intense.
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We were made for this.
So going back to my question before, like, you know, all the girls on your side,
you know, the girls and you probably know a lot of the girls on the other sides
because they probably either play in your teams or you play against them.
Would you, do you, I mean, you're going to say yes, I guess, hopefully.
Rank us as man for man or woman for woman as good as anybody else in the world?
Skill-wise, yeah.
I mean, every team has, you know, great players as well.
But I think our team on everyone's best day, we can beat anyone as individuals and a team.
But that's where, you know, to be the best, you have to be at that.
And when I said before about building up and getting ready for this moment,
that's where, you know, you have to trust your teammates because we're away from each other now.
You've got to trust that they're doing the work we need to do to be ready for that moment.
It's easier July 1st when we all come together and we're all training together.
Of course, everyone's doing it then.
But you need to trust that, you know, everyone's doing what they need to before to, you know,
make it through that tournament because when it gets to the deeper, pointy end of the tournament,
that's when it's the hardest point.
So you have to be at your fittest.
You have to be at your strongest to even get there.
So remind me, when does the Olympics start?
The first, so we're the day, our first game's the day before the opening ceremony.
So I think we are the 24th of July.
Towards the end of July.
And the opening ceremony.
What do you do between that date?
I'm obviously going to travel over there, but I'm just not literally,
but like what are your commitments between say now and then?
So here we are in June.
It's only like, you know, six weeks.
Is it just training, you know, with a squad or training on your own or, I mean,
you've got an injury to get over, obviously some rehab,
but what is the sort of schedule look like for all of you?
Yeah, it would be a bit individualized.
I mean, myself, it kind of looked like I'll have two weeks completely off
and then it would just be slowly building back up, like just getting moving.
If it's to go for like a 5K jog, I haven't actually got my schedule yet.
We need to do that when I'm in these.
So I'll have a conversation with our S&C.
He'll send me my plan and they'll just be, you know,
gym sessions to tick off, runs to tick off.
And on what days to align with what we're going to do when we get to camp
and just be a little bit ready for that to get into the football stuff.
But as a footballer, regardless of how much running you do,
the fitness when you play is different.
You can be fit, but it's going to be that training when we're in
that's really going to get us ready for the tournament.
And, yeah, a few girls are still in season, the girls in Spain,
the girls in America.
So they're still playing all the way up.
They play right up towards the Olympic period.
Yeah, so they won't meet us in camp until July 8th is when
the international window starts.
So we'll be in a week before they come and join us.
So there's like three weeks for most of you and about two weeks for them
who are still playing.
So it's really only like as a team it's a two- to three-week prep.
So, like, I just know.
If a fighter's going to fight, there's usually a 12-week prep
to get ready for the fight, like fitness, sparring, blah, blah, blah.
So I guess the assumption is that you guys are playing,
not in your case so much, but everybody's been playing football
up until that period anyway.
So at least their skill base is sort of, you know, in tune
and their fitness should be in tune.
But as a team, you're a team sport.
You know, just getting everybody to sort of sing off the same song sheet
and sort of get used to being together again.
How hard is it to recreate that?
Yeah, I think that's one of the beauties of our team as well.
We have all – the squad we have now, besides a few of the younger ones
that have come in, we've been together since we were 12, 13, 14.
So, you know, we know how each other play and I think that's what makes it easier
to come together and just get going quite quickly because we've played
so many years together.
But it's – it would be easier for me, I think, to go in, but I find,
I find it hard when, say, I'm at Arsenal, we have a different style of play,
we have different values and different, you know, things that we follow
to then come into national team to just have to normally switch
within a couple of days because we'll have a game in a few days.
So I think the girls coming from their season, they'll have less time
to adjust and it will be harder to – you know, we'll be a week prepped
before they come in and they'll have to catch up.
So I think that's kind of harder for them than it will be
Will other Olympic squads have the same issue, though,
or is that special to us?
No, everyone's the same.
They're all playing somewhere else.
I mean, yeah, I think – and there's only two teams from each,
like two from Asia, two from Europe, two from Africa.
So it will vary how their leagues are and where their players are playing,
but the way the game is now, there's girls all around the world playing.
So every team, I think, will be in the same situation as us,
at least with a couple of teams.
And your coach, Tony, his style looks to me, when I was watching last year,
it looks to me that it looks defensive at the beginning,
like quite a defensive style of footy, football.
Am I correct in saying that?
Is that the style of play that the Matildas play, defensive footy?
Yeah, there's – I mean, Tony's very tactical and –
What does that mean, though?
He's very smart with how he wants to, I guess,
manipulate a team to work in our favour.
Manipulate the opposition or yourselves?
So when you say we look very defensive, we probably do because if you look
at our team, our strengths are our forward line, our speeds.
So to create space, you want to drop to create that space in behind
and make the teams come to us.
The moment they lose the ball, we're gone.
Yeah, I mean, it depends on the opponent and what type of players,
but it's – he's worked his coaching style around getting the best
out of us individual and bringing our strengths out
and then pulling it together as a team.
And that was the one thing I think he got us on board when he came in.
He's like, we're going to build this to your strengths.
I'm not going to give you a style of play that I want you to fit into.
I'm fitting into you girls.
That's interesting.
Many years ago, I used to go to the – I went to four World Cup finals
many years ago, Rome, France, et cetera.
And I was in Mexico, Mexico City, World Cup final, 1986.
And it's amazing the different styles of all the teams.
I was in Berlin and I remember the Italian side playing against us actually
were really flamboyant, full on – not aggressive but attacking all the time,
trying to score goals all the time, you know.
And then I watched the German side and they were sort of –
they sit back, they're sort of setting you up all the time.
They look like what I call defensive to the extent that I understand the game.
When you come from, say, someone like Arsenal and you go then
into the Australian side, the Matildas, is it a big effort to switch?
Because, you know, if there's different styles of playing in the team,
to – from Arsenal, say, to the Matildas, is that a big switch for you?
Yeah, it is a bit.
I think we do play a very different game.
Arsenal traditionally is a football team, possession-based, you know,
kind of, I guess, starved teams of the ball.
We have, you know, most possession, every opponent we play.
I think on the national level –
to be fair, I think Arsenal is more like, say, Spain.
Spain or Japan, they are very tidy on the ball, keep the ball.
We, as a national team, I wouldn't say we have all those type of players,
so the style is different.
And, yeah, I think individually, if you bring out the best of everyone,
it's not – you're not going to put a style to a team and be like,
you have to follow this if those players don't fit.
So I think that's why we work well as a national team the way we're playing now.
And, I mean, the results have showed that as well.
And do – I mean, I'm sure you're not a better –
I'm just going to lay the gamble anyway, but who's the favourite?
For the Olympics, I mean, it's got to be Spain.
They won the World Cup.
They haven't lost many games.
They've beaten top-ranked sides.
They all pretty much play for Barcelona.
Barcelona just won the Champions League.
The style of play they're playing –
The style of play they're playing, it's working.
And they've been doing it for a long time together.
I mean, to play club and country together, it's – it must be nice to be able to,
you know, just have that same style of play all the way through.
You play with these players every day.
So the connections they would have is probably what we've built over years.
They do in, you know, weeks almost.
So if you were to – if you were to have your own way in the world and you wanted to win,
and you said silverware, I'm looking for goldware, but –
I want gold as well.
If you were to have your own way and you were able to cast a spell over everything
and said, look, this is the way I'd like our team to be prepared,
is that Spanish-Barcelona connection, is that the way you would like to see us play
and prepare as an Australian team?
In other words, we, Australia, play – or Sydney or whatever it is,
the capital of Spain is Barcelona or whatever it is.
It's Madrid actually, I think.
But it doesn't matter.
Barcelona is one of the big cities and there's a team called Barcelona.
So the way they play in their league and then they just transport that straight
into the Spanish side, would you like to have that in Australia, in our environment?
You didn't have to travel.
It was all done here with your team.
I mean, if we had, you know, the league here and the players here
and a professional season, I think the league here could become that.
I mean, after the World Cup, all the players,
all the players around the world have been to Australia.
And I think one of the selling points is just our country in general
who wouldn't want to live here, the lifestyle that we have.
And for us as well, that's what we miss the most when we come back
and how nice that would be to be able to have that.
And, I mean, the hopes are that we do have that one day.
And, I mean, why could we not have one of the best leagues in the world with,
you know, the World Cup showcase that.
So I think if the game can go there here, then, yeah,
I can't see why we couldn't have that.
Why do you think it is Australia, relatively speaking, a small country,
why is it we seem to outperform in our sport relative to the rest of the world
compared to, say, the number of people they have in their country?
Like, you know, we outperform in boxing, we outperform in swimming,
we outperform now in women's soccer, we outperform obviously in rugby union,
rugby league relative to our size.
Probably the only thing we don't outperform in is track and field.
But just about every other sport.
Why do you think that is?
Yeah, I don't know.
I think it probably comes back to our roots as well.
Like, everyone's had to, you know, find a way here in Australia to start something,
to prove something down the line of their family.
And I think it's just been within the blood in the country.
And when it comes to sport, we are very passionate.
You know, you grow up watching sport, playing sport, and at some point everyone has.
And I think that's just, yeah.
It's just been in the blood of us to, we love a sporting team, we love a winning team.
You want to be a part of a winning team.
Yeah, I think it's just, we're born with that drive.
We seem to compete globally well above our weight division.
But I think there's something genetic in Australia.
Maybe it's our multiculturalism as well.
I mean, I was just thinking about your surname.
Your surname is not F-O-R-D.
It's F-double R-D.
So is that like, has Dutch roots or something like that?
It sounds like it.
I've said that before.
There must be somewhere along the line.
But as far as I know back, everyone's from here in Australia.
So, yeah, I don't know.
But I guess it's got to be.
Because like when you go to, I mean, perhaps this is the same now in the UK and other places.
And perhaps also in a place like, and Barcelona.
But I would have thought that those environments are much more localised.
Most of the people are from those environments.
Would that be the case?
Other clubs around the world as opposed to here in Australia.
So, you know, we're very multicultural.
But a lot of other places are just mostly Spanish or just mostly South American or Brazilian
or mostly English or Irish or whatever they are.
What is it like in those clubs around the world?
I mean, I don't know.
I haven't been to like, say, the Spains or French leagues or anything like that.
But you can see, I mean, hear from the girls that are there as well.
Like when they're there, it's a very Spanish way.
It's a very French way.
It's very German.
How they do things in their country.
And I think that's, you know, the road that they have.
And, you know, as an international player coming in, you've got to adjust to them.
They won't adjust to you.
And that's just how it is there.
Where I think here we open up and adjust to almost everyone and make them feel welcome
and stuff like that.
It's not always the case in those countries.
And I mean, but for them, football's in their roots.
They, you know, it's the game.
They're in Europe.
That is, you know, the world game.
So for them, they're very passionate about it.
They, you know, they would die for their clubs.
And it's the same in England.
It's everyone has a team.
Everyone supports a team.
You've grown up with that.
It's in the family.
And, you know, you feel that.
Well, I feel that playing for Arsenal now as well.
The club, you know, people would die for the club.
That's how much they love it.
And, you know, when you go out there and play,
you can feel that you're not just playing for you.
You're playing for the club.
You're playing for the fans.
It's one big club.
And that's just how the game is there.
How did you feel?
Did you go out to the game?
Did you stay at the, I don't know where they all stay,
Novotel, where they stay at, your team, the Matildas.
Did you go and stay with the Matildas on the weekend?
Before the, when the Origin Boys was also there?
So you didn't play, but you stayed there.
You didn't hang out with them.
And then the PAX Stadium, and the PAX Stadium was not dissimilar
to the PAX Stadium for the State of Origin.
How does it feel like to think, this is crazy,
all of a sudden we're on the same sort of level as New South Wales
versus Queensland in terms of audience?
Well, it's funny you say that because the boys were staying where we were
and they came to the game to feel the atmosphere
of what their game was going to be.
The New South Wales team did.
And that, yeah, I mean, that was even like crazy still to hear
I mean, they're coming to watch women footballers,
the Matildas, to get a feel for the Origin.
And yeah, I don't think that's probably ever been done before.
So yeah, it's crazy, crazy to think.
I mean, I was sat there watching both games, I guess,
and the atmosphere is a bit different, I think, you know,
with the environment of what kind of people were there
and what, you know, people come to the games.
Footy's a bit different.
It's men on the piss, you know, really getting into it.
We're all fired up.
And I would say our environments are more family-based.
And I mean, it's opened up now to more, but, you know,
people aren't going there to really get on it and, you know,
enjoy it that way.
So I think the atmosphere is a little bit different in that sense.
But then when I flip it to when I'm in England and the atmosphere there,
that's a whole other level again with, you know, those fans,
that football crowd, the chants, the songs,
the singing throughout the whole game.
You just have to be there to experience it.
So when the first time you played for Arsenal and you experienced that,
what did you think to yourself?
Oh, my God, like what's going on here?
Especially the songs.
Yeah, just like this is incredible.
Every single player in our team has a song that the fans know.
And if you do something good on the ball, something happens,
a big tackle or whatever, and they're all singing that.
Like it's just a really cool moment to experience.
And now it's just, you know, the norm almost.
It's just that I've been to the men's games and that's what happens.
And then now that's happening at our games as well.
It's, you know, really see that the games are coming together.
You're going to the Olympics in a couple of weeks' time.
What's the future look like for you after that?
So how does it work?
I mean, because, you know, what's a lifetime of a female,
I don't know, call you a footy star because you are,
footy star look like?
I mean, is there a period after which women do not play football?
They usually retire?
What's that look like?
Yeah, it's hard to say.
I think it just depends on your body.
I'd say the average age that players play to is maybe 34, 35,
but it has increased recently.
Us, for example, she's not in the squad because she's injured,
but a girl called Ivy Lewick, she's 38 and she's still playing
and she's probably one of the fittest people in our team.
So I think it just depends.
It depends on your body.
I mean, I don't know how long I'll play for.
I mean, I've been in the national team set up since I was 16,
so I think I started probably earlier than I should have,
so I don't know if that means I'll go as long or not.
Maybe more than half your life.
But, I mean, I have two more years on my contract at Arsenal.
I feel in the best form and that I have my whole career.
So, yeah, I will play as long as I feel my body can,
Yeah, because that's what I wanted to ask you.
Like how, at what point or how important is it for you now to look at,
this is not something I've always wanted to do,
but this is now a career.
This is where I'm in my money.
This is what I'm going to, you know,
and at some stage I'm going to retire and I've got to be,
get myself set for the future.
How important is it for you to go about this like in a business-like manner,
like actually treat this as your business?
No, I think that is kind of been the most important thing,
for a lot of us off the back of this success is it's not even just the stuff
we do on the field now, it's, you know,
the commercial opportunities and sponsorship deals and those are,
you know, more than what probably a football contract is.
So we, and we never had that before.
So I think that's maybe what makes it difficult for players as well now,
that probably we're close to retiring, you know,
now all the rewards are coming in.
So it's hard probably to want to leave the game with,
where our contracts have gone with the national team,
with the equal pay and stuff like that.
It's, it's like I've done all these years and now,
and now we're here and, you know,
I'm not ready to retire anymore.
So I think, yeah, it's that's.
Oh my God, I don't want to retire now.
I've been going through the hard yards and they're all going to come and take control
of the sponsorships.
So like, because a lot of that stuff would be new to you,
you know, like you're now not just a great sports star,
but you now have to become a business person.
How do you do that?
Do you, do you get advice?
Do you seek management?
How's that all work?
Yeah, no, if we do have management,
I mean, I think everyone has to have it now.
I mean, as we've seen the demand as well,
and one of the biggest changes is like,
you don't really feel like you can go anywhere without being noticed.
And that's just having more eyes on the game and the Matildas as well.
And this is a success we want,
and this is what we've always wanted.
And now it's just having,
the support that we need to,
to help continue through that.
And I think one of the biggest things for me,
which I've found hard is at the games,
it's very overwhelming at the end with,
it's not just kids screaming,
it's kind of like people in their twenties and stuff like that.
It is really overwhelming.
And people almost expect you to just be available because we always were before.
it's not like that anymore.
I think that's what I've found hardest with what,
what the change has happened.
do you mean like for media interviews or for just somebody standing there,
wants a photograph or a chat?
like there weren't as many people,
there weren't as many fans.
So you almost probably could get around to almost everyone.
it's impossible now.
to leave and to feel like,
you're disappointing people almost because that's how crazy it is when people are
screaming at you and throwing stuff at you and like,
you want to get around,
you want to almost all the little kids because you know,
they're the ones that are going to dream to be that.
not to say the older ones are as well,
but it's just like,
it's just really hard.
I feel like to manage it.
And I think from a media point of view as well,
it's everyone used to have access to it us now,
and they probably still think they do.
And if they don't,
that's an important point because media to some extent can control your
how important is it or how hard has it been to,
to become that person?
Because it's a different side of Caitlin that you have to sort of prepare for
you don't want your whole private world to just to be appear somewhere on the
front page is because you've got to go to keep something to yourself.
But at the same time,
if you're not prepared to talk or open up,
the media sort of can close in on you pretty hard.
they actually go hunting for things.
how do you deal with that?
how do you feel about that?
that's probably the,
I would say the worst thing that comes with it is you don't really have a personal
life with social media and stuff like that.
everyone's got a phone.
they don't miss a moment,
who's to say that someone's not in a bad mood or something's happened and,
they're just not feeling it that day and something out of character happens.
the media can take that and run with it.
and I think that is the hardest thing when it comes to,
the popularity of the Matildas and,
being in the spotlight,
almost that these are the things that do come with it now.
you do have to watch what you do and what you say.
It's just one step wrong.
that's the headlines,
because that can become your business case for a sponsor,
or it can become the reason why a sponsor doesn't want to sponsor you anymore.
it's sort of put some more pressure on you.
You already got pressure on you to play well for your team,
but there's also more pressure on you to act a certain way.
particularly if it's not natural.
the boys seem to get away with it because I don't know,
sort of semi-expected.
sort of like it shouldn't be,
but it is sort of expected.
But then the girls,
I think there's a sense that it's not expected.
I don't know why that's the case.
doesn't make sense to me,
my understanding of women,
they're just as crazy as the boys.
Boys and girls are the same.
Which is smarter.
Definitely much smarter.
we go about things more cleverly,
but also you have each other's back.
You're better at having each other's back.
Boys don't even think about each other.
They're just fucking doing stupid shit.
if you do one wrong thing or say one wrong thing,
and what someone else assumes is wrong,
might not be wrong for you,
but makes a judgment on it.
It can affect your,
your financial career basically,
for the next couple of years.
And also maybe a renewal with a club,
and a renewal with a sponsor.
And if you want to get to 35,
it's a short period,
particularly more short for you,
because you've come into this environment
later in your career.
the environment's become very lucrative
later in your career,
compared to say when you're 20,
20 year olds coming in today,
you're going to have a much better run,
Do you think about that stuff?
I just got to be careful.
I got to do this,
and I got to do that,
and I shouldn't be there,
and I shouldn't go to that.
I shouldn't be seen with a glass of,
bourbon and Coke in my hand.
If that's what your favorite drink is,
I don't know what it is.
It doesn't even know if you drink.
do you think there,
those constraints,
you think about those constraints?
at the same time,
you do want to live your life,
if things don't align with certain sponsorships
and stuff like that,
that wasn't a deal for me anyways,
you know what I mean?
and I don't know,
I think it's kind of,
Australian culture is a bit laid back.
they would expect you to have a drink.
They would expect you to enjoy yourself,
where I think we're lucky with that side of things.
A lot of other countries don't seem as laid back,
they wouldn't probably get away with something like that,
or it'd be normal.
So I think our culture is a much more relaxed,
but then there are certain things that,
like you've said before,
the media do look for things.
They love a headline,
and they love a star to be in the headline.
So you definitely do have to watch out for those things,
but at the same time,
I'm going to live my life the way,
and I think they're okay.
So if that was to turn another way,
then that would be that,
I don't think it will.
I think I'll be all right.
one final thing I'd like to ask you is,
they all have the Matildas,
I don't want to over read this,
they love the Matildas.
it's like a movie or something for them,
especially what happened last year.
and that's going to continue on,
selling out crowds.
little kids are probably your biggest fans,
either individually or as a team.
Do you think that that's going to,
encourage young women,
young girls to start to play,
female soccer in this country?
from what we've seen with the numbers of,
participation at the numbers have skyrocketed.
And I think it's exciting for women's football.
to have more players playing,
more girls to choose from,
it's only going to benefit the national team in the long run,
to have more talent coming through to,
to get those girls,
I guess that probably would have been missed if they didn't have a role model
and a vision in front of them to look up to.
And I think that's probably going to be one of the,
the biggest things that we'll all be proud of once we do retire,
to know that impact that we have had on the game here in Australia.
it's not just girls,
it's boys as well.
You have little boys having Matildas jerseys and I hear a lot of,
of parents that come up to us and they say,
you've inspired my son,
you've inspired my daughter.
when they speak about their son,
they get quite emotional because you know,
a mother to have your son look up to a,
So that change is,
something special.
And how'd you feel?
You still with manly,
you still follow manly seagulls?
It's hard to keep track of over in the UK,
manly is my team.
And how do you feel about Cherry Evans sort of taking it to us in New South Wales side
he's your captain at Manly.
He's also captain of Queensland,
but he's sort of to my,
he was probably the best player on the field.
He just tore us apart.
You still love the footy?
it's New South Wales,
New South Wales through and through,
but I think it's natural for everyone to have a soft spot for someone from their team on
the opposition as well.
When he's playing for Queensland or like Lindsey Collins who plays for my side,
When he plays for Queensland,
I don't like him.
You don't like him?
Or if he's doing it for Manly as well,
then it's all right.
But if he just does it for Queensland,
not Manly then there's a problem.
in the state of origin,
some players have a habit of playing not so great during the season for the club.
And as soon as they put the Maroon jersey on,
rivalry it's just within you the competitive sort of environment that the state of origin sets up
yeah what is who is some sports star that has always inspired you um
i yeah i grew up watching rugby league i wouldn't say i had a player that inspired me in that sense
but i also enjoyed surfing growing up as well when lane beachley was a female figure that you know
a legend still is still is um yeah i think in a way maybe her but i mean the moment with kathy
freeman as well um at the olympics that moment was so special and so powerful and inspiring for
females so that's that's one that i think a collective as the matildas i mean the ones old
enough um relate back to that moment a lot and i don't i don't know if you've seen before the
world cup she came in
and spoke to us and i've never seen the team so amazed by one person and to speak to her and to
have a bit of insight from her you know on that moment at the olympics and to speak to us heading
into a world cup on home soil similar kind of approach um i think it settled a lot of nerves
for the girls as well just to hear how even still to this day she that moment doesn't feel real for
her and it's almost like what i was saying with the penalty
out as well when she went into that race she didn't feel the pressure she didn't hear any of
the outside noise she didn't know everyone was watching almost like us as well it is when you're
in the zone and you have that focus and that goal that nothing else matters you do whatever it takes
to get there and maybe hearing that from her as well helped us all um throughout that campaign
and it will move them forward into olympics as well yeah it's amazing how someone like that can
inspire it inspires me i was at there when she did i was at the olympics and i was at the olympics
when she ran the race and uh i was at the olympics at the stadium and um watching her come down the
straight and with her outfit on like it was just so iconic yeah and for her then to go and talk to
you guys but you don't realize is some stage you'll be talking to somebody else you're you're
the new iconic team you're the kathy freeman but in a team sense yeah the matilda's is that and
and the matilda's are going for a long long time forever
the current matilda's the one who got us to where we are now
is so iconic that you now have the baton to pass on do you understand or do you feel the
sort of level of responsibility of paying forward what someone like kathy freeman gave you and what
the material is now giving to everyone else in australia yeah yeah i guess i mean even like
when we were speaking to her like you know it's the same you've said to me how
amazing the world cup was and how amazing it is what we've we're doing for um everyone here in
australia but at the same time i relate to kathy what she said to us and when she said this we were
all kind of taken back but after that race she was disappointed because she didn't run the time
she wanted to run and you could hear when she was saying it she was still so annoyed about it
that she didn't hit you know that time she wanted to get and that's a regret that she has from the
race when it was so amazing you won you won you won you won you won you won you won you won you won you
won gold and that that's it and i mean for for me looking back on the world cup i'm i'm so
disappointed that we were so close to meddling we missed out on the final we lost the bronze medal
match like that opportunity will never come around again and what's happened is bigger than that but
for me and for us we'll never get that moment back again and you know it it is disappointing
for for how we ended up on such a
amazing tournament but does that does that um inspire you for the next event which is going to
be the olympics does that do you guys as a team say well you know what we didn't achieve
in july last year yeah we're going to make sure we get this time around yeah i think that is
is the sense the general sense i think it hasn't been spoken about yet but i think it's in the
back of everyone's mind and i think it's in the back of everyone's mind and i think it's in the
back of everyone's mind because it wasn't just the world cup it was the olympics before the same
thing happened we finished fourth we had an opportunity to get into the gold medal match
lost bronze medal match lost and that's happened twice now so i think yeah it's it's there it's
we've inside and i think it will be a topic of conversation closer to the games well congratulations
on your selection which was a no-brainer thank you very much i'm sure you're going to do australia
proud or the whole team's going to do australia proud but i i think
what i want to say to you is
what i find amazing is he's a
a young woman who was a young girl who was a competitive sports person on the south coast
of australia now is playing at a club like arsenal now is representing us again in the
matildas at an olympics sort of the journey must be as an observer must be like you must pinch
yourself just to think
like it's like something like a book or a movie or something something along those lines that i
you would never have expected as a little kid growing up no and coming from where you came from
and it's quite an amazing story and for and here you are sitting in front of me now on my show and
uh you just like i mean you guys like gods you are on a world on a world scale you're sitting
here just like a god you're just like a god you're just like a god you're just like a god you're just like a god
a normal person which gives a lot of motivation and inspiration and hope to lots of people out
there wow i could i'm like her yeah i could be maybe one one day like her yeah and i want to
thank you for that um thank you for being that type of person and coming in today and and talking
to me about honestly about who you are i appreciate it thank you no i mean to have the opportunity to
sit here and even i guess share my story because just while you're going through that like
if you would have asked me when i was in school having to sell chocolates to make money to go
play football to represent new south wales or whatever it was i wouldn't think i would be where
i am today and what i've done and you know have to do that i used to hate it i used to not want
to do it i thought it was embarrassing and i think to just you know show people that you know
there's different ways to get to places and everyone's journey is different it might come
earlier later and it's just about you know sticking with it and i guess believing in yourself to
be able to get there and i guess that's what i did kaylin ford we appreciate you thank you very much
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