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Toby Rudolph, Blake Braley, one of the game's true characters and one of the, you probably don't get enough recognition in the game and what you're doing for the Cronulla Sharksides, but welcome boys.

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Toby Rudolph, Blake Braley, one of the game's true characters and one of the, you probably don't get enough recognition in the game and what you're doing for the Cronulla Sharksides, but welcome boys.
One character and one actual good player.
Hey, you're a good player too, mate.
Oh, thanks Jeremy, I appreciate it.
Questionable?
Yeah.
Questionable.
Yeah, these days.
No, great player, mate. 71 games.
71, 72?
I've done my research, yeah.
Brales, you're 98, 99?
99.
Yeah, 100 next week.
Where's your next game at?
Home against Dragons, actually.
Oh, awesome.
Awesome, far out.
Hopefully Toby can be out there too, it'll be nice.
Yeah, beautiful.
So, coming off a pretty good win yesterday, Blake.
Melbourne the week before, a few work-ons after that game.
How was the feeling after that game?
And obviously, you know, coming back home yesterday, how did you find everything?
Yeah, that week was real tough.
That flight home was, you know, the longest I've ever had and we could tell everyone just
wanted to be out there and that whole week everyone was sort of itching to get out there
and a special occasion for Britt playing, he's won it at the game, he's been playing
great.
He's here for us and, you know, reward him with that two points and a good score on a
try on his 100th game, he's pretty good.
100%.
And hopefully the same for you in a few weeks, mate.
Yeah, I hope so, I hope so.
Bye this week.
Any plans, boys?
I'm going up to the Origin on Tuesday, Wednesday.
I haven't finalised anything else yet, doing a bit of work up there with TikTok, so that
should be a good fun and I think you're going up there too, aren't you?
I'm up there, yeah, yeah, for work, yeah.
For work?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not TikTok?
Hey, no TikTok.
What's that?
Is that social media?
No, bro.
No idea.
I'll let you know when I find out.
Yeah, no worries.
What are you doing?
No, I've actually got a Thursday plan to go to the wrestling with Cam.
Wrestling?
Wrestling with Cam.
Do a bit of wrestling there with Dale.
Oh, I thought you meant like WWE.
No, no, no.
Okay, right, right, right.
Cam McGuinness.
Yeah, Cam McGuinness.
And Dale Finucane.
Yeah.
You're choosing to go and wrestle.
I was thinking WWE, but we're actually talking Day Off Wrestling.
Can you give the watchers and listeners a bit of an insight to them two boys and their
training methods?
It's, it's...
It's like chaos.
It's honestly, you're in there for 30 seconds and Cam's already bleeding and you've got
blood on your jersey and it's like, where'd it come from?
And he's always in the corner.
He's, takes his tooth out and it's just like, I stay away from him.
I hate him.
Any, any, any good stories from them two boys that train?
I do, I do know one from like Macca's first couple of weeks.
Did he knock T. Wilton out of the training in a pose?
Did he?
I remember.
I think that was in his first couple of weeks of training.
Actually, I've got a good story from Melbourne.
Nico and Dale roomed together.
And...
Dale has this routine where he's anal about his routine, just constantly does everything
by the book.
And he has this one bed he's been in his whole career and Nico thought it'd be a good idea
to put his bag, get in the bed and sort of mix up a bit.
And Dale comes in and goes, mate, move your bed.
I'm older.
I've played more games.
This is the rules now.
Dug his heels in, didn't move and goes, all right, I'll wrestle for you.
And Dale Finnegan takes his earphones off, jersey off, jumper off, bag down, shirt off
and then wrestles for the bed, throws Nico onto the table just for the bed and just...
That sounds so horny.
Pens him over the table.
Mate, that does sound like a bit of a sex scene, actually.
Not bad.
You two boys, any...
Talking about pre-game rituals, any pre-game rituals here?
I couldn't imagine you, Toby, but I could imagine you, Blake.
Nah, I remember Toby had one where you had to be the last to put your jersey on.
Yeah, I've thought about that, yeah.
Yeah, I messed with his brain and just weighed him out, see if he would do it.
But nah, I don't have any.
I'd like to be a bit pretty relaxed, pretty cruisy.
Yeah, that's your personality, mate.
I used to have heaps.
I used to have a few.
I used to have to sing a certain song before a game.
I used to have to, yeah, last to put the jersey on.
Growing the hair out was one as well.
Never anything more than that, but it was still annoying because it's sort of all gone now,
but when I was a bit younger, it was definitely in the forefront of my mind.
But now I'm just an ultra-professional, obviously, and it's all good.
Seasoned campaigner.
We'll just touch it on that.
Obviously, seven.
Seven in nearly 100 games.
How long did it take you both sort of to feel like you're an NRL player?
And then you just touched on that, these weird intricacies you have when you're a bit younger,
but now you're outgrown.
What is your preparation like now?
Honestly, I've never had any prep ever.
It's honestly not changed once.
The only thing that has changed were the superstitions along the way.
When I sort of started feeling like I belonged, there wasn't really a game or a moment.
Just sort of maybe as the years went by.
Probably into my third year, I sort of felt like I was holding a regular starting spot
and felt like I was sort of in the mix and I could sort of mix it with everyone that
I was sort of playing against.
But in terms of prep, yeah, I've tried to find a prep routine, but I almost kind of
like not having one because then I can't be thrown off by anything.
So pretty easy to go on as well with that sort of stuff, yeah.
Yeah, I'm the exact same.
I don't really have a set prep or routine I sort of go through.
I just sort of go with the flow and listen to my music.
And yeah, I feel like if I had those sort of things, I'd freak out if I didn't get them done.
So I try not to, you know, bring them in.
And if they do start creeping, I try to knock them on the head straight away.
Did you have any?
Did you have any of them?
I was a little bit weird, yeah.
My pre-game prep was out there.
But, mate, we're here to talk about you.
It's not me today, all right?
So I'm going to say to you.
But quickly, just go to, you know, pre-game prep.
And, you know, it made me think of Fitzgibbon.
And obviously, you know, he's come to the club.
Top four finish last year.
Sitting fifth at the moment.
And how do you find him as a coach and leader?
And then I've heard about his pre-game prep of getting out and getting after it on game day with a bit of wrestling.
Can you give the viewers a bit of an insight into that?
Yeah, Fitz, he's nuts, eh?
He's actually crazy.
Like, love him to bits.
The care he has for his players is second to none.
Like, I've never experienced that anywhere else.
Like, he gets you on his side so easily, effortlessly.
And someone you just want to play for.
But then game day, I remember him talking to me and all the forwards.
And he spoke to them.
To a few of us, just saying how game day, he's into his jiu-jitsu.
He's a brown belt, I think.
Yeah, a brown belt.
And on game day, he does an hour and a half of five-minute rounds with no breaks in between.
So he can come to the game and talk to us about how and how, like, we've got to be tough.
We've got to be hard.
And the only way he feels he can do that is by being, I think, a crank neck and a sore wrist.
I feel like he's actually done something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he needs a new shoulder.
And he just refuses to get it.
Because then that'll be his jiu-jitsu career done.
So...
Good.
Yeah, he's nutcase.
He wears...
If we win, he'll keep the same shoes.
If we lose, he'll chuck them out.
He's just like...
You know, a lifetime deal with Adidas sort of tends to help.
Yeah.
He's just so intense.
It's scary.
Do you want to give your own sponsors a shout-out as we're here?
Johnny...
No, Johnny B.
No, I'm Budgie Smuggler.
Actually, I was thinking that in your pre-game prep.
You're wearing them same swimmers every game.
No, I don't wear Budgies in the game.
Oh, really?
I get, like, chafed too much.
My quads are too big.
Yeah, fair, fair.
Yeah.
Brails?
No, I just wear Nike boots, so...
Not much of a plug there, but it'd be nice to get a few more things.
Anyone watching, please reach out to the boys.
Quickly, just touch on family.
Jaden, your brother, he's out injured at the moment.
And then your younger brother, he's in the...
Is he now under 20s at Sharks?
Yeah, he's in the 20s system now.
It's sort of a weird period for me now.
I've played with my older brother and then seeing the transition of Taj coming through,
it's pretty exciting.
Hopefully, he can get to the NRL.
To be able to start playing with my older and younger brother would be pretty special.
Mate, for your parents, obviously, you know, to get one child to play,
to have, you know, two, then hopefully three would be quite cool.
With Jaden being the older brother, you know, do you lean on him for, you know, advice
and similar...
Oh, not similar, same position.
Yeah.
You know, and he's obviously a very mature guy and he's...
Well, the two boys I know, you and Jaden, are fantastic boys.
You know, does that come from the old man?
He's involved at Cronulla as well?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's pretty much a whole family affair at the moment.
And my little brother, Taj, actually helps with the media out at Sharks there.
So, he takes photos, he does a bit of content for him there.
And, yeah, like you said, Jaden's been in the system and the program for a long time now.
And, yeah, I always lean on him.
He's always the first one to message me when he thinks I played well or things I can change.
And he's been around the game longer than myself.
So, I'm always constantly learning from him.
And I'm pretty lucky to have an older brother who's been through the system and played,
you know, over 100 games for the NRL.
100%.
Now you can pass that wisdom on to your younger brother.
Is he full-time next year?
Yeah, I think he's got a pre-season next year.
I'm not too sure how it's going to work.
If he gets too good, do I get pushed out?
Like, what's the go here?
So, it's sort of what you did to Jaden, right?
Do I go to Newcastle?
Does Jaden move on?
I don't know what the cycle is.
Mate, that'd be ruthless.
Jaden, are you going to go to Newcastle as well?
I don't know what, oh, yeah, I don't really know what the cycle is.
But, yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how he progresses.
Are you going to try and fold him?
Who?
Taj.
Yeah.
I can't, yeah, I can't let him.
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, like, obviously it wouldn't be too often
that a hooker runs into a hooker in a game or in training,
but if he does, are you going to, like, actually lift him
and sort of bury Jaden?
Nah, look, nah, I won't want to put him on show
or, you know, his confidence is pretty quiet.
What if he does it to you?
Well, then that's a different story.
Okay, okay, okay.
I was going to ask you about family, but let's quickly throw it to you, mate.
You've got your own podcast now, stuck in the middle.
Yeah.
We had to educate Blake what it was called.
We did, yeah.
Great.
I've got a great teammate over here.
Obviously, supporting all my goals, desires, ambitions and all that.
But, yeah, stuck in the middle.
I'm pretty sure it's sitting at, like, number one
in the Australian podcast right now,
but if we can get a few more listeners to it
and just get it even above that, it'd be great.
Look down the barrel and say that.
Stuck in the middle.
Give it a listen.
Spotify, YouTube, I think Apple as well.
I'm not too sure.
I'll learn better next time and come up with a better answer.
Mate, and you were telling us before we started
how much preparation you do for your podcast
and you get guests on it.
Do you want to let everyone know how much that is?
Yeah, look, I mean,
we have done some every now and again.
Like, it's just Liam and I got together a couple of times
and we had, like, I think Jake and Tom Tewari
which I wanted to ask some stitch-up questions
which I'm sure you have coming as well.
But, like, we sort of thought
sitting there with a clipboard was ridiculous.
We just sort of, I don't know.
We do a bit of research,
but mostly I guess we get on with our friends anyway,
so we sort of know what's going on.
But, yeah, research is minimal, to say the least.
Your co-host, he was on this exact podcast not long ago
and there was a story about a bag of shit.
Do you want to respond to that
and throw him under the bus in any way you want?
He was terrible to live with
in terms of, like,
we were sort of living the dream at the start.
We lived in Rammock at the start
when we first lived together.
And then, out of nowhere,
we move into Maroubra
and he brings his girlfriend into the mix
without really sort of consulting me about it.
And, like, we were just,
we were so happy before.
We were so happy
and then he just had to ruin the relationship.
And I think, I don't know,
is there any sort of more mistrust in bringing...
a third sort of party into the equation, so...
I remember we used to go over to your house
and I felt awkward having this girlfriend there.
You know what I mean?
It was just...
It was weird.
I know.
It was weird.
It was a boy's pattern then.
Changed.
Yeah.
Also, I wanted to say as well,
Liam was on about, I want to say,
500 grand at the time we were living together.
Yeah, I was on about 50.
And he paid...
Oh, no.
I'm not paying more than 100 bucks for rent.
No way.
I'm not paying more than 100 bucks for rent than you are.
So, I was paying 300 bucks for a little shoebox
and he was paying 350 for, like, an en suite.
So, tight ass.
There you go.
Yeah, yeah.
Nice.
That was your right of reply.
I like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaking of roommates,
you just moved to the Shire.
How long have you been at the Sharks now?
Jesus.
Since 2019 was my first year there.
Yeah.
And it's taken that long to move to the Shire.
Yeah, I love the area.
I love where I'm from so much.
But the drive was just getting a bit tedious
and the roommate I had previously,
which is my older brother,
who you know a little bit,
yeah, it sort of wasn't a really good living situation
at the end there.
He constantly was having parties and vendors and...
See, that's not in your personality.
No, it's not really me.
So, when you have to train and actually work for a living,
it's a bit challenging to deal with that.
So, I moved to Cronulla by myself in a really nice pad
and, yeah, I've been there for two weeks now.
I haven't heard from you once since I've been there.
So, yeah.
I called you three times last week.
You were meant to actually come to have a beer with me
on Saturday and you brushed me
because you're that professional.
Next question.
Yeah.
Next question.
If you walk into the locker room tomorrow
and there's a, you know, roommate wanted
and, you know, see Toby's number down at the bottom,
would you never?
Not a chance.
No way.
Yes, you would.
You'd love to live with me.
No.
You're lying.
You're lying to the camera.
I don't like it.
No, we're two, way too different people.
I think...
Well, you'd bring your girlfriend anyway
so it wouldn't be allowed.
That's true.
The time we spent at the Snow,
when was it, the buy-around?
Yeah.
A few years ago was probably enough.
We were there for, what, two, three days?
Yeah.
And what I experienced in that room was enough to say,
yeah, that's not for me.
Were we in there drinking bickies and tea
and going to sleep?
Yeah.
Yeah.
We were.
Are you roommates when you go away for footy?
No.
No fatigue.
I'm Teague or Nico.
I'm Connor Tracy.
Yeah, you'll see Teague.
Yeah.
But we always end up in the same room.
Yeah, we're always in like four or five of us
in the same room.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Nice.
That's cute.
Do you want to throw Nico or Teague under the bus
or Connor Tracy?
I could imagine Connor would be great to be as a roommate.
Nico, a bit selfish?
He gets up, yeah, his alarm goes off at 6.30
even though I want to sleep in.
Yeah, yeah.
So there's that.
Teague's nose is enormous.
That's all I have to say about Teague.
No.
Could he have a smug in the rain and keep it dry?
100%, yeah, yeah.
But other than that, no, they're both pretty good.
Are they?
Yeah.
So Nico's got any weird pre-game rituals?
A thousand, but I can't even lie.
He's out of the room doing weird stuff beforehand.
Really?
Yeah, we have like a spine meeting before we go out
and he can't have it in a certain room
and it can't be a certain time.
Really?
Yeah, we put our hands in.
He won't put his hand in.
It's just like all these different things
he has to get ready for.
It just messes with his head.
Really?
Well, yeah, he rang me a couple of weeks ago
on game day and he goes,
I'm just going down to the...
to the field to have a kick through.
He does a kick through on game day,
which I was like, oh, that's a bit odd.
He's like, yeah, I do it every week.
He was taking Wee Man, his roommate,
like down with him.
He goes and must kick the ball back for him.
Wow.
How rock solid is that?
Yeah, Wee Man is the most rock solid man
I've ever met in my life, honestly.
Yeah, he's a good man, eh?
Yeah, proper.
He's a ledge.
Unreal.
Like, obviously, Nico,
there's been a fair bit of attention
brought to him in recent times
and, you know, he bounced back yesterday,
which we knew he would.
He's a resilient man
and a fantastic rugby league player.
He's got around him at training
and how's he handled everything,
you know, internally?
Really good.
Like, he has his own mindset coach
and he has his own avenues
to sort of process the way,
process the things he wants to process.
So, look, he's just the ultimate professional, Nico.
He knows what he's doing
and, you know, to get the performances
out of him that we did last year
and this year as well,
minus a couple of games,
you know, he's obviously, like I said,
he's an experienced campaigner,
knows what he's doing
and, obviously,
us running around him
definitely would have helped him out as well.
But, yeah, he's just very strong mentally
and, like I said,
the mindset coach helps as well.
For sure.
I think he's got a good sort of friendship
and group around him at the moment.
He said, we, man,
they've been close for a long time
and he's got his mum
living with him at the moment
and, yeah, they're definitely helping him out there
and I think he's off social media a little bit,
which is also helping his headspace
and, yeah, I thought on the weekend
they bounced back
and proved a lot of people wrong
and, yeah, hopefully he continues the form.
100%.
I don't think he needed to really prove himself.
I think we know the sort of player he is
but, you know,
as the rugby league media is like it,
you know, they're looking for a victim
or to get into someone
and, unfortunately,
they made a lot of noise around Nico,
which I think was totally unfair
but it was great to see boys bounce back yesterday.
Just going back to that game,
you yourself cut the tricis
to a couple of big followers in the middle
and I only saw the back end of the game
but big Tommy Hazleton
got a bit of a round of applause when he went off.
Yeah, I know.
I was actually,
I was talking with Toby on the way here.
I was on the field
and the crowd just erupted
and I didn't know what was going on.
I thought it was a streaker
or something going on
but it's just Tommy Hazleton
walking off the field
and getting the round of applause
which he probably deserves.
He's sort of turning into the cult hero at the moment.
Sort of took over Toby's spot there
who was the cult hero
but now he's tall.
He's 40, 20, we call him
and he's got the bald head.
It's unreal.
Very relatable for all us rugby league fans.
How are you going to deal with that?
Are you going to compete?
And then let's touch on a little bit,
you know, the alpha males around training
and, you know,
Yeah, no.
I love Tommy Hazleton too much
to compete with him in anything.
If he wants my spot,
he can have it.
I'm annoyed about the three tries yesterday.
We've been playing with this guy for four years now
and how many have you given me?
Not one.
Not one.
Not a single one.
But you are the highest decoy
in the NRL for the past two years.
Highest decoys for the last two years.
I want to thank you for that.
Well, thank you.
Mate, your attack was nearly the best in the NRL
so you played a big role in it.
Yeah, exactly.
Who's going to get this?
Oh, no, he's not.
Oh, he never does.
Thanks, mate.
Appreciate it.
Good chat.
Mate, that's good.
I want to bring up a bit of a personal thing here, actually.
You know, I met you out last Christmas Eve
and I thought we had a good night out together.
Yeah.
Added you on Instagram about a week later.
Then, anyway, crickets for a few months.
Ran into you on Anzac Day.
Brought it up after a few skewness.
Out on the syrup on the weekend.
I get a follow on Saturday night.
Why did it take you six months to follow me back?
Mate.
Was there beef on the ice?
Yeah.
Was there beef on the ice?
Yeah.
Was there beef on the ice?
Yeah.
Was there beef on them two nights out or what's doing?
Honestly, like, literally, so you brought it up a couple of times,
like you said, right?
And I think it was just in one ear, out the other.
Like, oh, yeah, I'll follow you back, I'll follow you back.
And then, actually, you needed something from me.
So I looked up what's the thing.
Follow back.
Oh, yeah, he's been talking about this for a while now.
So I just, I don't know.
It's just me being selfish, I suppose.
Sorry.
Did it hurt?
Well, I was just like, am I upset this guy?
Why is he not following me back?
I was like, I know I get loose on the syrup, too.
No, no, no, you're fine.
It was my fault.
It wasn't you, it was me.
Is he like that?
Does he hold a grudge?
Or is he a bit funny around training?
Yeah, he does only talk to a select group.
Yeah, well, I'm sure he gets, you know, thousands of followers a day
and it's hard to always keep up with that, so.
Yeah, it's that, too.
With the campaigns he does and the photo shoots,
he's always in the spotlight.
So it's a bit, it's tough for him.
I'll give him a way out there.
I get it.
Do you see yourself as a bit of a sex symbol?
Yes.
No, with these teeth and these collars.
The great teeth.
Yeah, with the horse teeth.
As, yeah, well, better than no one, I guess.
Guilty.
But, no, I don't.
I see myself as, I don't know, class clown, Tobe Rudolph,
nothing, not too sexy.
That's good, though.
And, you know, with the way rugby league is in the media now,
you know, you've sort of seen the personalities phased out of the game,
so it's refreshing to have people like yourself and, you know,
you're putting yourself out there and having a laugh
and drinking beers with the crowd on the sideline.
And I think, you know, then when you do go out into the clubs
and that, you've got your arm around everyone
and people want to see that.
They don't want you, you know, not talking to people
and being arrogant, so don't change that.
No, I won't.
I'll never be arrogant like yourself.
I always want to sort of stay humble.
Actually, maybe at the start when he first came to Kanoa,
I was a bit arrogant.
I was?
Yeah, it was hard.
I remember when he first came, I was speaking to my brother
thinking, I'm never going to be friends with this bloke.
I don't want to know him.
I don't want to talk to him.
Because he came in, you know, he's got that bubbly personality
and as soon as he walked in, he was calling himself Clive Churchill.
Which put a few people offside, as it would.
How many games had he played at this point?
Not one, not one, not one.
Josh Morris made a point of that.
So, yeah, but I still remember the day when he walked in
and I thought, I'm never going to be friends with this bloke.
Really?
Yeah.
No, I heard that ages ago from him.
Yeah, many times, yeah.
Mate, for Blake Braley to feel like that.
To say that, the nicest guy in the world.
I did something wrong.
Really?
Yeah, well, it was, I think I got a few people on side.
I told this story yesterday, actually.
It was our Christmas party at Gail's house.
Did he invoice you to go?
No, he actually, no.
That was a good day.
It was a good day, but he actually asked us all for 20 bucks to buy cases.
So that did happen anyway.
So, but now we get there, we're all in the stores having a great time.
I think I was about four weeks post-surgery, post knee reconstruction.
I'm just peppering up to everyone like,
what did you guys do last year?
I won a grand final, you guys came third.
I won a comp, I won a Clive Churchill.
And one Josh Morris didn't take too kindly to this.
He started just going, have you won a state of origin series?
You played for your country?
Have you played for your state?
Have you played NRL?
You've done nothing.
I was like, nah, I won a Clive Churchill though.
He just hated it.
So yeah, there was a bit of drama there with me and him, but I won it.
I got a few people on side that day.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you catch up with Josh now?
Mate, I told him the story to his face yesterday.
Oh, it was to him you were talking about?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So no, we're sweet now.
We're sweet now.
I love that.
Yeah.
So back to the change room.
You know, who's the alpha males?
Who's the personalities of the group?
I obviously know that you'd be the first nude in the shower.
Anyone else following you?
Yeah, Dale.
Yeah, Dale, yeah.
Matty Cavalli was, but he's gone now.
Jesse Ramian, which is a lot.
Yes, we know why.
Yeah.
Is there anyone else?
Peg sometimes.
Yeah.
Wade, Wade.
Yeah.
But I think that's about it.
I think that'd be about it.
Yeah.
Would be about it.
In terms of alpha,
I want to go see Fatalico.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Really?
When he walks.
Big dick energy, yeah.
When he walks past you,
you're like, oh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's the chief.
We call him the chief.
Yeah.
He's just.
That was his nickname in school.
Fun fact.
You wouldn't mess with him.
Nah.
But he's actually,
he's a really nice guy, isn't he?
Ledge.
Yeah.
Ledge.
He's one of those guys that like,
he doesn't say a whole lot,
but when he speaks,
you listen kind of thing.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, definitely.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know if you've seen
the celebrations recently
when Man City won
the championship over there
and there's a guy
called Jack Grealish
getting around full kit.
No, I've seen this, yeah.
You know,
come the end of,
or early October this year,
he's been the premiership.
Who will that player
in your group be?
I think I know the answer to this.
Yeah.
What's the,
what did he do?
He was still wearing full kit.
Constantly.
Yeah, three, four, five days
and he's still in the same kit.
Yeah, okay.
Just everywhere he goes,
he's just life of the party,
pretty much.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't think we need to.
Say who it's going to be.
I think it's going to be
maybe for sure.
Cam McGuinness?
Maybe.
Could be.
Could be.
Actually, I might throw a smokey
out there, Sione Katoa.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
He's the best.
He's hilarious.
Yeah, he's,
honestly,
he's the funniest man
in the Sharks,
if not the NRL.
Fair dinkum.
I'm not even JNR,
but yeah.
So good.
When I asked Toby the other day
about potential options
he tossed up,
you and him,
but he goes,
I reckon Sione might go
a bit quiet
with a microphone in front of him.
He also had a large night
last night,
so I don't know how it'd go today.
Really?
Yeah, he'd be dusty.
We should have brought him in
when he was still half full.
He might have got word
about it.
Yeah, that'd have been good.
But no, he's,
yeah, undercover,
he's hilarious.
He doesn't say much,
but when he does,
it's just comedy gold
every time.
Yeah, probably.
He's the best.
Yeah, nice.
Oh, we might have to
try and recruit him
in somewhere.
100%.
Get him on, he'll love it.
Just mic him up
so he doesn't know
all this stuff he would hate,
but he's hilarious.
Yeah, righto.
And what about,
so 10 games to go
for you boys.
You obviously got
the eyes on the top four.
Have you looked
at your run home?
What's the run home
look like?
Yeah, I sort of
had a look the other day.
I think we go to Perth
and New Zealand,
which is always
a good little fun trip away.
Definitely got some
tough games coming up
with Penrith there
and yeah,
I think the competition
is so tight this year.
If you drop a game,
you're out of the eight,
so everyone's on notice
and everyone's on watch
and we know
if we don't play well,
we're out the back door.
I haven't looked
at any games
I'm just trying
to get back to play.
I know we got
Dragons,
Titans,
and then I think
it's Perth,
is it after that?
No, I think it's
New Zealand.
Oh, New Zealand.
And then Perth's
later in the year.
Okay, right.
I do know, yeah,
Perth is South.
We got Panthers,
Roosters again maybe as well,
who can be anything.
Canberra,
never beaten Canberra.
I've never beaten Canberra,
yeah, it's one
tattoo bogey team
at the moment.
Down there or home?
Either.
At home.
Oh, really?
We haven't beaten them either.
Yeah, yeah.
Never beaten them.
Treddington,
that used to be the Dragons.
It's now the Sharks.
Indeed.
Indeed.
So, looking forward to it,
looking forward to actually
getting back playing some footy
and hopefully can play
the last 10 games in a row
without any hiccups.
How is the foot now?
You've missed how many games?
Well, round six
was my last game.
Yeah.
We had three buys
in that time,
which helps.
Yeah.
But still missed a fair few.
So, foot's feeling okay.
It's now just the lungs,
which are the main issue.
But it's coming along,
coming along.
I want to get folded
all this week.
The boys have a buy
and most,
most of them are away
doing fun stuff,
except you doing wrestle.
That's fun for them.
That's so fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, Kim and Dale are stoked.
But, yeah,
looking to sort of
get the lungs,
the fitness base back,
possibly play a bit
of reserve grade
and get some Ks in the legs
and then be right
for the sort of
back end of the year.
Yeah, nice.
And then we're just
talking away games.
You played how many seasons
in the Q Cup?
Just one.
Just one.
How'd you,
what was your favourite
away trip in Queensland?
And, you know,
to now?
Yeah.
You always got
the job done.
Yeah.
You always got the jeans pack
when you're on a way trip?
Yeah, mate.
Honestly,
this is a true story.
I actually,
I always took my jeans,
but there's been about
four or five times
I've forgotten my boots.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You went to
our Tolles' boots
or somewhere.
Yeah, I went to
Tom Halston's once,
I went to Tolles' once.
Actually,
did you do your ankle
in someone else's boots?
No, I did my knee
in Tolles' boots.
But I still got my jeans
for afterwards,
so it's always good.
Q Cup,
best away trip.
There was too many,
like Cairns,
Hyde Airbus Cairns,
Cairns was a very good time,
it was one of the best
nights out ever.
Yeah, right.
Went to Mackay
and we had the best time
at the Lost Rabbit
or something.
It was in Amendico,
actually.
So like,
you know what,
it doesn't matter
where you go
with 780 Best Mates,
if you're with
780 Best Mates,
you're going to have
a good time
wherever you go.
So,
but in terms of
NRL away trips,
it's hardly going to
pass the Mad Cow,
as you would know
very well,
Jeremy Lattimore.
Townsville, yes.
Perth,
have you actually
ever been to Perth?
Twice.
You have?
Yeah, we went to the Nines.
Oh yeah,
we did too,
yeah.
The best night out ever.
Yeah, that was good.
It is a great night out.
Yeah,
so much fun.
Yeah,
I don't know what it is
about over there.
I went there
and it was like
40 degrees in February
but it's not like
40 degrees here
where you're dying.
It was actually
like bearable
and look at my
beautiful brown skin here.
I'm white as
so I hate the sun
but it was
completely fine
and you know,
focused in on my
football game
and then the night out
which I know
you'd be the same.
Yeah,
nailed it,
correct.
Were you there
for the Nines
or were you there
actually probably playing?
I've been out
the back door
for a while now.
I went there in 2012
for a Dragons trial.
We were talking
about Steve Price before.
Can we go into
a bit about Pricey
and you know,
he's influenced
at the club.
Obviously,
Fitzy's the main leader
and driver of everything
in the football club
but Pricey,
he was there
when they won the comp
in 2016,
won the comp
at 2010 at Dragons,
went over and had
a lot of success
in the Super League
as well.
You know,
what are your thoughts
on Pricey
and what he does
for the football club?
Yeah,
I love that man.
All our coaching staff
are unreal.
Usually there's
one Derek amongst them
but honestly,
all ours,
they're all the best blokes.
I'll sit down
and have a chat
to him about
anything in life,
not just football related,
about life,
about houses,
about drinking stories.
He's got a few
of those as well
but he's that man
that every now and again
when you sort of
like the Melbourne game,
he'll just sort of
bring a bit of light
to the room
and sort of
change the mood a bit
but also,
he's that one
that when you are
sort of fucking
around a bit,
he'll bring it in
and he'll sort of
be that one
that drives that focus
so he's just
an invaluable member
I think to our coaching
staff and our team.
That's what I think.
I'll probably
stall your thunder there.
Yeah,
no,
he's great.
He's got that perfect mix
of being your mate
and being a coach
and he knows
when to have fun
and when to be hard
and he always
He loves being hard.
Yeah,
he always brings
a bit of life
and joy around the club
and yeah,
he got Toby
with a good stitch up
the other day
which was good.
It was outstanding.
Yeah.
You want to tell the story?
You want to tell it?
I think you should
because you were there.
You were experiencing it.
Yeah,
yeah,
firsthand.
So,
I come into the sheds
after a meeting,
I think it was
and there was
two coppers
just standing
like in the sheds
and they look at me
and like,
I heard them say
Toby Rudolph
and I was like,
no,
no.
The whole room
went dead quiet.
Fully,
like everyone
was just so serious.
I'm going like,
there's no fucking way
that there are two cops
here coming to get me
and then I started thinking
like,
what have I done?
What have I done
that I don't know about?
Which is even worse,
like they've come here
to the Sharks
to come and get me
so I walk out
and they're like,
oh mate,
you had an incident
at the Maruba Seals
about a month ago
and in my head I'm going,
maybe these guys are strippers
like I don't know
what's going on here
so I asked him like,
are you boys strippers?
But my heart's pounding
at the time,
I'm sweating bullets
like I am now
and just nervous wreck
and I turn around
and Price is just there
giggling in the corner
and I just went,
you fucking,
yeah.
Everyone started laughing at me
and my heart was racing
for about another
probably hour after that
so it was a good stitch up.
It was actually,
oh I'm one now.
Yeah,
that is a great stitch up
and I can only imagine
the heart rate
what it was doing.
Made through the roof
and he said he wanted to,
like he told me
to get the cuffs out
and just cuff me straight away
which would have,
I would have had a heart attack.
Didn't anything happen
at the Seals a month ago?
I said I hadn't been there
in a year
so that was what sort of
threw me that,
yeah,
good man Pricey,
good man.
What's he run,
attack or D?
Defence.
Edge defence,
yeah.
Okay,
and then who runs your attack?
Josh Hannae
and DJ,
Danny Holdsworth.
Yeah,
so that's who you're
exclusively working with
with the spine?
Yeah,
yeah,
they both do a lot of work
with the spine
obviously being half himself,
DJ,
he knows the game pretty well
and yeah,
he's very detailed
with what he does,
definitely breaks down
a defence of opposition
really well
and gets us best prepared
each week
so it's working,
we got some great attack
and got some pretty good plays
coming.
Bloody oath.
What,
you know,
with the game
where it's at now,
you know,
there's constantly
different things changing
with the rules
and you know,
the contacts,
the new ones hitting the legs,
what do they call that?
A hip drop.
Hip drop,
that's it.
You know,
what do you think,
do you like the way
the game is now
and you know,
what changes would you like
to see moving forward
and if you know,
for the betterment
of our football game?
I think the way the game is now
it really suits the way
you play,
like you are owning
and dominating the ruck
and obviously that allows
Nico and Matty
to do their thing.
Yeah,
I'm actually really enjoying
that six again rule
to play a couple of years back.
It gives myself,
I'm not the biggest,
strongest or fastest player
out there but
I feel like I'm pretty fit
so the back end
when the bigger boys
get pretty tired
that's when I sort of
come into my game
and yeah,
obviously the crackdown
is pretty hard
with that hip drop.
It's hard to,
you know,
pull away out of those
tackles sometimes.
They happen pretty quickly
but yeah,
duty of care for the players
is always number one
and yeah,
I'm just glad to,
I come away each week
unscathed.
Yep.
First I just want to say
you are really
asking the tough questions
here.
I really like it.
Why?
No,
not tough questions,
just like this is a really
serious question
and I just want to
congratulate you
on the question.
Mate,
you know I love
having a joke and a laugh
but also,
I know he's got great
footy IQ,
you love playing rugby league.
Yeah,
yeah,
you're right.
So,
tell me what you want.
I like the six again rule.
Again,
agreed with that.
What I don't like
is how they're ruling
out common sense.
So like,
for instance,
there was a game
a while ago,
I think Mike Acevo
needs someone in the face
on the run
or someone needs
someone in the face.
Swali.
Swali,
Swali.
No,
no,
not in front of the ball.
Anyway,
it was like,
someone was running
through the ball,
he needs someone
in the head
and it was a penalty
for like careless contact
but like,
it's an accident.
Like,
there are some instances
in the game
where it's a pure accident
but they're ruling
against it as a penalty
and like,
some of the things
you can't control.
I saw a penalty
the other day
given for Mike Acevo.
He was holding
a bloke down
with his hands
like this
pushing him
into the ground.
It was a penalty
for being too rough.
Like,
another penalty
for I think
Victor Raleigh
hitting someone's ribs.
When I was in the 20s
and there was a rib expose,
our coach would say,
break his ribs,
break his fucking ribs
and now it's too rough.
Like,
I don't like that direction
the game's going in.
I like a fast game.
I like a game
where it's free flowing
and no penalties
but just the ones
where it's like too rough.
It's like,
we play a contact sport.
Like,
shut the fuck up.
Seriously.
Mate,
100%.
I do agree
with a few of the things
there that you touched on
and we do need to remember
it's a game
of sort of gladiators
and physical contact.
You can't take
that away from it
because that's why
it is so appealing
but also,
you know,
that quickness
that the rock
brings the attack
and,
you know,
fans love and watch
an exciting footy.
They don't want to see
sometimes maybe
a 10-4 scoreline
but you want to see
tries getting scored
and our talent on display.
Alright,
so that was,
love that.
Great input.
Thank you.
What is the best thing
about being a rugby league player?
You'd probably say
the money,
wouldn't you?
You would.
Nah,
if I was Nick,
I would say that.
Yeah, nice.
Oh.
No, you know what,
I've worked a bunch of jobs
under the sun
and to call it a job
is doing it a disservice.
Like,
you go hang out
with your mates
that you spend
more time with
than your family.
You go away together.
You,
you know,
you,
it's,
there's barely a serious
moment in sight.
Obviously,
it's serious
when you're trying
to win games
and,
my phone's ringing.
That's Ram Freshenall,
I'm sorry.
Put this on the ground.
There are serious times
when you need to,
you know,
actually put your best foot forward
and try and,
you know,
everyone's there
to win a competition
but to call it a job
is,
like I said,
it's not a real job
and it's just,
it's honestly a pleasure
to play the game
and to be paid
to do what you love.
Yeah,
it's definitely,
you know,
being in the sheds
after a game
and everyone's happy,
everyone's laughing,
having a few beers
after you win.
Yeah,
just getting to,
when you start the season off
and you've got new players in
and,
you know,
you're a bit awkward
that the first few stages
then flash forward,
you know,
to halfway through the season
and your best mates
are talking about our life
and,
you know,
everything about them
and you're sharing
all these tough situations together.
It's,
yeah,
it's pretty special.
I really enjoy the away trips
when we go away
and your room
and you get to know about
someone else even more
and,
yeah,
you're pretty much,
it's honestly like your family.
You're with each other 24-7
and,
yeah,
the friendships
and the connections you build
is really strong.
Mate,
what's the worst thing
about being a professional
rugby league player?
I guess being in the public eye
to an extent,
like,
you know,
it's nice
being recognised
for achieving
what you've done
and for the hard work
you put in
but,
you know,
there's also a million eyes
on you at once
and sometimes,
you know,
you can't always behave
the way you want to behave
or if you do misbehave
it can be controversial.
but look,
the worst part
is far outweighed
by the goodness in the game
and,
yeah,
I wouldn't trade it
for the world.
Yep.
What about you,
Brails?
Yeah,
it's definitely been
in the public eye.
I even say probably tackling.
I know.
Some of the boys
go to tackling
and it's like,
come on,
give me a week off,
you know what I mean?
Even this week
you've got Frankie Pelé
and Pangula coming in
so like,
you know,
I'm 80 kilos
wringing wet
and,
yeah,
definitely after the games
I'm pretty sore
and,
yeah,
maybe if I could
put in a few more kilos
I'd probably change my answer.
Mate,
you play well above your weight
and I think often
I see players
who are way bigger
than you
going vertical
so I didn't think
that would be a concern
for you.
So you're 27,
how old are you,
Brails?
24.
24,
oh,
far out.
What,
have you started to think
post-rugby league
and are you doing anything
at the moment?
I know you're doing
your,
your potty,
anything else
outside of rugby league
which,
you know,
to,
you know,
when you get that period
when you do have to transition
putting things in place now.
Yeah,
now I've been,
I've got a few ideas
I want to sort of do
after footy.
When I first came in
to the NRL
I started my,
you know,
PE teaching course
at Wollongong Uni
but actually lasted
two weeks
and then pulled the pin
on that.
But yeah,
I've got a few
sort of ideas
I want to probably
stay in the game
a little bit.
Be a specialist coach
in dummy,
half or in the spine
or a bit of kicking
would be nice
or even,
you know,
a different avenue
with being a primary school
teacher or a firefighter
I want to,
you know,
help out the community
somehow and I don't
want to be stuck
in an office.
I don't think I could
see myself being,
you know,
stuck inside
and being on a laptop
for too long.
I'm a pretty active person
I want to be outdoors
so anything outside
I'm happy to do.
Yeah,
nice.
What about you?
Big tubs?
Yeah,
I attempted university
when I was younger
and it wasn't for me.
Can't study,
can't sit still,
can't do something
I don't want to do.
I don't want to do.
Really?
I don't know,
weirdo.
But in terms of,
I had some good
chat with you about it,
about what to do
and just sort of
building those connections
that you meet,
the amount of people
you meet in good places
in rugby league
is ridiculous
and I'm sort of
slowly learning
how to,
you know,
make use of that
and build some
relationships in the game.
In terms of an actual
avenue,
that hasn't really
presented itself yet.
I haven't really got a skill
to be a specialist coach
so that's sort of
out the window for me.
But look,
the one thing I want to do
when I'm done
is just travel.
I want to see the world.
I want to,
it's a big world out there
and I've lived in a very
small part of it
so far so
I think
through doing that
I think it'll sort of
open some doors
and
show me
like
the way I want to go
when footy's done
because
yeah,
I don't want these years
to be the best years
of my life.
That's one thing
that I've sort of
realised lately
and I'm worried about that.
I'm worried this will be
the best years of my life
and I don't want that
to be that way.
There's a lot of life
to live after footy
and
yeah,
I need to start
sort of thinking about that
and getting old
and I'm breaking down already
so I'm waiting to see
what happens.
Mate,
well I think
it comes back a bit
to your mentality
and having that sort of
mentality and attitude
because the reality is
you retire at 33,
you know,
you've got to work
for another 30 to 40 years
so
this,
when you look back
is only a small time
in your life
but it is some of the best
years of your life.
Like you said,
you're going to work
with 30 blokes
and you're lifting weights,
you're feeling good
about yourself,
you're going out,
people are cheering for you guys
aren't they?
But you know,
you're doing what you love as well
but
there is 30,
40 years
and the way you're already thinking
I think you're thinking
along the right lines.
You spoke about travel.
Did you two go to America
together last year?
We were there together.
We were there at the same time.
Austin.
How was that?
Mate.
It was great.
Yeah?
It was great.
He had a way better trip
than me for sure.
Yeah.
Fact?
Yeah.
Nick at Heinz,
don't get him on a plane,
don't get him out of Australia.
Why?
He's just,
I went to Bali,
I went to Bali with him.
I don't,
should I say it on camera?
He got Bali belly.
Yeah.
He
shat the bed.
Literally.
He literally,
literally shat the bed
and he's just,
yeah,
we were there for four days,
freaked out,
didn't enjoy it.
Obviously,
we all got sick
so that wasn't great
and since then,
yeah,
I don't think he'll be
leaving the country again.
America was the same.
Worse.
Didn't enjoy America.
No.
Really?
He only ate steak and mash
so you're travelling around
and you want to try different food,
you want to try different cultures
and he's just like,
where are chips?
Like,
where are they?
That's all he gives a fuck about.
He doesn't want to try something new
and this and that.
Oh,
let's get half the order
and half the order
and we'll swap.
No,
he'll get scared.
But at the same time,
he was travelling with Toby
for a majority
which is a headache in itself.
You know,
I'm a good traveller.
What do you mean?
You lost your passport,
you lost your wallet.
I didn't lose my passport.
Did you lose your wallet?
No,
I didn't have.
You left it in the car.
No.
Oh,
I lost the phone in the car.
Fine.
You got it back.
Yeah.
Yeah,
but that was like,
in Bali pools,
I'm surprised I didn't get like AIDS
or something.
I was put my head under
every single pool
and then I got in a flight.
So,
anyway.
Bali pools is where you get it.
Bali pools.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
No,
it was,
yeah,
we did meet up in Austin
and had a great time.
Saw the Red Hot Chili Peppers live.
Yeah.
That was mad.
Yeah.
Rainy street,
6th Street,
Austin,
great city
and then you guys ended up
going to New York and Vegas
and having the best time ever.
Went to a college NFL game
which was sick.
I hated it.
Toby almost passed out.
Yeah,
the game from the heat
or the alcohol?
No,
no,
that was literally,
I just got a 30 hour flight
from,
no,
I got a 30 hour flight
from Bali
to LA
and then I had to drive
because I had an ear infection
and I had to drive 30 hours
from LA to Texas.
I had to drive across the country
with a friend of mine.
Then I got,
the first thing I do
is get to the game
and we walk up to the very top bleachers
and I'm just like
in a world of hurt
and then I just like,
start like feeling
like the weight of gravity
just pull me down
like,
call an ambulance,
call an ambulance
and,
we're in the nosebleeds
and he's lying down
in between the seats
with point water on his head.
Yeah.
All sorts.
Well,
you know,
it was a big few days.
If you're given an RPE
after the game,
he's given 10 out of 10 experience.
You're zero out of 10
but nine out of 10
on the head noise.
Yeah,
it was bad.
It was bad.
So,
are you looking for
any travel partners
for this off season?
I don't think there'll be
anyone queuing up or?
No,
everything else is great
other than those experiences.
There's about five of them.
There was a few,
yeah,
there was a fair few.
I've been there for two weeks too.
Yeah,
I know.
No,
I was only in the States.
We went to go there for ages
but I was in LA for two nights.
It was shit
and then
it was a two day drive
and then
Austin for four days
and then Mexico.
Yeah,
that was fun.
Yeah.
I love Mexico.
And you're in a relationship rails?
Yeah.
How long have you been
settled down for mate?
Actually,
not that long.
Is it official?
Yeah.
Okay,
sorry.
Yeah,
not that long.
It's still pretty fresh.
I'm enjoying it.
I was never great at being single.
I enjoy the company.
I'm glad you admit it now finally.
Yeah.
Yeah,
good.
Yeah,
I definitely,
I definitely enjoy
having my partner there
and it's been great.
Have you told your lover?
We can cut that.
I want you to just look
down the barrel of the camera
and tell your lover.
No,
no.
Do you want to give her a shout out?
No,
no.
And Toby,
do you want to give your girlfriends
a shout out?
Susan Rudolph,
I love you Susan.
You're the best lady
I've ever met
and the only woman in my life
and I love you for it.
Love you my man.
Are you looking for love?
Always.
Yeah.
Always looking for love.
Just haven't found it yet.
Okay.
One night,
I was going to say one night love
or longer term love
like Brails is looking for.
I mean,
you can always find,
I've heard plenty of stories
of one night love
turning into long term love.
Yeah.
You know,
they're not sort of mutually exclusive.
Yeah.
I'm looking for love actively
all the time.
It's just,
I just haven't really found that yet.
Maybe one day.
Mate,
where you live
and down on the Esplanade,
I'm sure you'll be doing
a fair bit of recruiting
down along the Esplanade there.
Yeah.
Well,
I mean,
I do have like this balcony
that overlooks the Esplanade
and I think in the summer
I'll just be a bit of a
bit of a party vibe,
a bit of a,
hey,
what are you guys doing?
Want to come up
to my amazing apartment?
Hey.
You sent me a photo of it yesterday.
I did,
yeah.
It's pretty good,
eh?
I did not hear a ten head noise
at home
and you're smiling
in the water in the background.
It looked fantastic.
It is,
it is.
It's a good place.
You should come around
sometime and call me.
Yeah,
well,
man,
if you reply to my messages
and actually funny you're saying
like about players
when they come to your club
and you know,
getting an arm
and it took you two years
to like this bloke
and then he's like,
I'm not arrogant.
I'm like,
he didn't follow me back
for six months.
Well,
I just,
I wasn't sure if you wanted
to be my friend
or my business associate.
I don't know what was going on.
You were the LCI
with this,
you were that.
No,
man,
I'm a friend of everyone.
Well,
if I like him.
Okay.
Paul Vaughan?
I like him,
huh?
Not Paul Vaughan.
No.
Okay.
Well,
dude.
What about you,
Brails?
I can imagine
you just liking anyone.
I don't think I can fight.
Never been in a fight in my life.
So,
actually one time,
a school game,
I did get in a fight.
Well,
I didn't,
but our team did
with Sif Italica's team.
We didn't know each other
and he right hand hooked
my brother
and he still got the photo
of his head
gashing out.
That was the closest
I got to a fight
and then since then,
no.
Were you playing with your brother?
Playing with my brother.
School team.
Oh,
how old was his age yet?
Was he 18 or 16,
something like that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay,
there you go.
And then Sif,
130 kilos.
Yeah,
17 years old.
Yeah,
yeah.
No thanks.
Hey,
thrown in reverse.
Mate,
you got caught into the Origin squad
the other week.
How was that experience
and,
you know,
the footy you're playing,
you're obviously very close
to getting selected
for Origin 2.
Yeah,
how was it all?
Yeah,
it was great.
It was good to see,
you know,
behind the scenes
of how the week goes
and how the best players
in the competition
prepare and train
and,
yeah,
it was unreal
to sort of meet new people
and,
you know,
teammate,
when you're versus teams,
you're,
you don't really know each other,
you have that sort of rivalry
but then once you,
you know,
get into those camps
you realise they're actually
really nice guys,
you know,
great people
and,
you know,
the short time I was there
made some good connections,
good friendships
and,
yeah,
hopefully I can get in there soon.
Yep,
what was the,
what was the personalities
like in the group?
Was there a fair bit
going on there?
Yeah,
it was good.
It seems like there's a few
big personalities.
Yeah,
definitely,
you know,
you can hear Foxy,
you know,
laughing wherever you are
and you hear the boombox going
and,
yeah,
definitely a lot of big personalities there
and it was a great few days
I was in there.
What about,
good mates with your brother,
Tyson Frizzell,
did he make much sound in camp?
He's one of my good mates,
I love the man
but,
I couldn't,
he's a quiet guy.
Yeah,
there was a lot bigger personalities
there who sort of took the spotlight
and took the,
the microphone
and spoke constantly
but,
yeah,
he's a great guy,
I had a few conversations with him
and,
yeah,
I stuck with him
a couple of times there
so,
I didn't know too many people
so it was good to lean on him
and catch up with him.
Setbacks in rugby league,
like,
how do you deal with that?
You know,
people who are watching at home,
they don't know,
you know,
we touched on how good it is
to be a professional rugby league player
but at the same time,
you're dealing with injuries
and we're in the middle of winter now,
I can only imagine the bangs
you got on your body
but,
what are you doing,
you know,
away from training
to make sure that,
you know,
you're getting back to your best form
when you're not playing well
or you're looking after injuries?
Injuries for me,
so I,
when I first came to the club
I had a knee reconstruction
straight away so,
I didn't,
I'd been training with the boys
for the first six months
when I was there
and I'd made zero connections
and not one person there liked me,
which is well established.
So,
in those situations,
literally,
you sort of keep those close to you,
close to you,
like,
that was where my mum
and my brother really helped me out
along the way,
just getting,
you know,
my friends from Aruba
sort of hanging around them
and just keeping just
the good people in your life
close to you.
In terms of,
like,
you know,
poor form
and things like that,
I think,
I think for me
it's just going back
to the basics.
You just gotta,
you can't think too far ahead.
You gotta go,
you know,
break it down with the coaches.
Where am I going wrong?
What am I doing differently?
Maybe change it up at training.
All these sort of things
and,
yeah,
probably the hardest part
of that being injured is,
you know,
no piss,
no fun,
which is a bit of a shame,
but,
you know.
Which has been you this whole time,
mate,
so that's true.
Which has been me this whole time,
yeah,
been a good boy,
so it's,
yeah,
being a good boy is no fun,
but it's gotta be done sometimes,
so,
Blake,
take it away.
Yeah,
no,
for me,
I just sort of keep footy,
you know,
at the gates
when you leave the ground,
you sort of leave it there
and,
yeah,
I don't like to sort of
sit on things for too long
and I know the game
can sometimes be complicated
too much
and,
like Toby said,
going back to the basics
and just doing the little things right
and,
yeah,
I seem to lean on them
and,
yeah,
I definitely leave footy
at the gates.
I don't like to sit on things
and,
I don't like to watch,
you know,
too much video
if I haven't played too well
or I just strip it back
and keep it pretty simple.
Yeah.
What about,
you know,
that Melbourne Storm game last week
and I know
games I played like that
which sucked.
I wouldn't get much sleep
the night after
even though I didn't have
much of an effect on the result
if we won or lost,
but for yourself
and you,
Toby,
you know,
say you got a 7.30 game
home
by 10.30,
11,
are you then looking at the ceiling
all night?
Like,
do you sleep after a game
and do you process everything?
Well,
I think you would sleep
after a game
because you'd be out
doing extracurricular activities,
but anyway.
Guilty.
Guilty.
Nah,
after a,
oh,
you know what,
I think my sort of rule of thumb,
I never really sleep
after games anyway,
too much adrenaline
pumping through the body
that sort of stuff.
Don't look,
don't smile.
Not a beach road?
Nah,
never heard of it,
what's that?
Nah,
but I just sort of,
my general rule of thumb is
that night,
feel terrible,
like,
you know,
let it all out,
but after,
24 hours is up,
I think that's sort of
what Fitzy brought it actually,
you just let it park at the door,
the only thing you can do there
is try and get better
for the following week,
there's no point dwelling on it
for however long
you try to dwell on it for,
it's just going to make you worse
and it's just going to put you
in a negative mindset
and the biggest thing
that I think Fitzy's actually
brought to this club
is just trying to stay positive.
A positive work environment
is,
you know,
a happy one
and a happy one
is generally a successful one,
so,
there you go.
That's a lot,
that was pretty good.
Lyrical genius.
Brails?
Well,
it's hard to beat that,
but I think
I've definitely,
after a loss,
I'll be sitting
at the ceiling
and staring at the walls
and thinking
what I could have done different,
but I think
the way the coaches
sort of keep it positive
even though,
you know,
you didn't play too well
and,
you know,
if they double down
and knock you around even more,
it's not great
and you sort of kick stains
for another two,
three days,
so,
I think the way they
keep it positive
and just keep it honest
and,
you know,
we don't sit on losses
for too long,
you watch your video,
you get that done
and then,
you know,
you close that book
and you move on to next week
and,
for me,
that helps.
I like to move on pretty quickly
not to dwell on it
and,
I think we got pretty good at that.
You know,
any good stories on the boys
or any good nicknames
that you want to share
with the watchers
and the listeners?
Oh,
Teague Wilt,
massive tight ass actually.
Yeah.
There was one time in 2019,
I played my first game
for the Jets
and I actually made friends
for the first time
since being at the Sharks
to be at nine months.
We were out in the piss
and we stopped past,
we were in a taxi,
stopped past
Macca's on the way home.
This was really fresh,
wasn't it?
Yeah,
this was early on.
I've gotten over it,
obviously,
as you can tell.
So,
we stopped past Macca's on the way
in a taxi
so the time's ticking over.
It's like a $70 Macca's feed
at the time.
I'm working at 45
to support myself
to try and earn a bit of extra cash.
Paid for that
and then we get to the Teague's house
which was a run down
meth lab pretty much
at the time
in Sutherland.
Get in there
and as soon as we get to the house
he just goes,
oh,
that's what it is mate.
Bang,
gets out of the cab
and I ended up paying for that as well.
So,
he still hasn't forgiven,
sorry,
I still haven't forgiven him
because he hasn't said sorry yet.
So,
Teague Wilton,
tight ass.
There you go.
Anyone else?
No,
I think what needs to be brought
is probably Dale Finucane,
the ultimate plugger.
Yeah.
Every post he does,
every photo he posts
is embesting a brand.
He's posting something,
he's making these weird videos,
he's doing something that,
you know,
just to get free things
and you see him walk through
the doors every day
and he's got his clothes on
and everything's given to him
for free.
So,
I don't know,
he might be another tight ass there
because he doesn't spend money on clothes.
Oh,
he is a tight ass for sure.
brings his own lunch.
Really?
Which is a plug,
you food,
I think it is,
or he gets his meals
and I don't know where he spends his money
because he gets a free car,
he gets his meals,
he gets his food,
he gets his clothes.
He's an ultimate plugger.
Teague,
is he re-signed yet
for next year?
So,
he's still off contract.
So,
maybe when that new contract comes through,
will you go asking him back
for half of that?
Yeah,
I wouldn't mind,
yeah.
Maybe like a,
I mean,
a KFC feed
and an Uber to somewhere exotic
would be nice.
Exotic,
define.
Yeah.
No.
Well,
James Graham,
I used to call him gravity
because he'd bring the mood down
and take everyone's energy.
Yeah,
that's a doozy.
Have you got anyone in the group like that?
Easy,
yeah.
Kim McGuinness.
Kim McGuinness,
oh really?
I love that guy.
Yeah,
sometimes like,
I'm next to him in the sheds,
if I walk through the door,
he just looks at me and goes,
like,
I've got these new pair of shoes,
these Birkenstocks.
They're like these clog,
looking German shoes.
They're new,
they're fashion.
He doesn't understand.
He's getting old.
You know,
he doesn't understand fashion.
He's rolling in with a wife,
beater,
singlet.
He's wearing all sorts of things.
He's actually offering me money
not to wear them.
So,
he's just constantly just picking at me
through little things like that.
Yeah,
no,
Kim can't find a way to,
if he can find a thing to complain about,
put it that way.
I love him as well.
I love him to bits.
He's one of my favourites at the Sharks,
but,
yeah,
he'll just,
he'll find a way,
like,
someone walks in and he's like,
fuck wearing that for?
Yeah.
Really?
So,
he's not doing gratitude in the morning?
He's waking up,
he goes,
fucking Braille's gonna have them
fucking Birkenstocks on again.
Yeah,
constantly.
Well,
he gets up at 4.30 every morning as well
on his days off,
so that can't be good for you.
I don't know.
What's he doing at 4.30 when he wakes up?
Mate,
he gets up.
He's burying bodies.
He's burying bodies.
100%,
yeah,
I agree.
He's a serial killer.
Well,
boys,
thanks for coming along for the chat.
I've really enjoyed it.
And,
yeah,
we won't cut all that stuff you spoke out about.
I appreciate it.
Thanks for having us,
Latty.
Thank you.
Thanks,
boys.
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