Welcome boys, Jack Bird, Tyrell Sloan. How are we going?
Good brother, how are you going?
Yeah, good thanks mate, thanks for asking.
Yeah, that's alright.
How are you going Tyrell?
Good, how are you hitting them?
Good mate, yeah good, good, good.
Birdie, you're out at the moment with an injury. How's the body going and when do we expect to see the big guy back?
Yeah bro, it's been a while man. Like it's been a month and a half I think since I've started getting a bit of knee pain
and I've been trying to train and play with it but it's just, yeah, it's not coping too well.
But hopefully a few more weeks out and hopefully I can come back next week.
But I'm just trying to get that right, get my body right for the back end of the season.
You know what it's like when you get injured man, you don't want to go out there half undone.
Yeah man, and obviously I've had some knee injuries in the past so I'm just trying to look after that
and trying to get back on track and get back healthy and fit.
Mate, 100% brother. Tyrell obviously played Cronulla last night, it was a bit of a tough game.
How did you pull up? The body okay? And how were the troops?
Yeah, body's sweet. You know, the club's in a bit of a rough patch at the moment
and you know, attitude is always great at the club and outside looking in it probably doesn't look like that
but we have a tight-knit group and yeah, obviously it was a tough loss last night
but you know, we're just trying to take it week by week and continue to get better and keep turning up.
I think that's, you know, sometimes outside people can have a view on rugby league players
and what's going on.
Mate, there's never a point when you're a rugby league player where you're not actually trying,
just things aren't happening and even at the start of the year where you boys,
I think you lost six games by a combined 12 points or something so you win them,
you're right in the mix, in the top four so you know, that effort has been there
and you're trying hard but I think the confidence and execution is sort of down at the moment
but yeah, still a few games to go in the year and hopefully see the big boy back out there
and Tyrell carving up but mate, let's dive back into wet weeds.
He's both grew up down the gong.
Birdie, I did a bit of research on you mate and I did know this.
I actually remember 2012 when I was at the Dragons and Robert Finch or Craig Young was talking about
this little whippersnapper who had rheumatoid arthritis and that was you.
How did that affect you as a kid and you know, you touched on your knees now.
Is it still affecting you now and how do you manage that?
Yeah, so with the rheumatoid.
So I did an ACL when I was 16.
Playing Oztag, I was in the junior reps at the Dragons and I just, I wasn't even meant
to play, I was filling in for my cousin so I went and as a young kid you always want
to play Oztag, play touch and all that kind of stuff so I used to do that a lot.
Did a step, done my ACL and then a few months later I started getting a bit sore in the
wrists and elbows and stuff like that and I always thought that it was just from the
And then did blood tests.
Tests and all that kind of stuff, nothing really come back and then my left knee at
the time was my good knee and then that blew up like a balloon and it was hot, couldn't
really walk on it.
We took fluid out of that and it came back with rheumatoid arthritis and then yeah man,
ever since, like I've been on medication, take an injection every week, every fortnight
was weekly then, now I'm back on weekly, take you know, tablets every week.
It's kind of hard to stay on top of it because it's like, you know, when you get used to
Over and over again you kind of forget and you just think, you know, take it for granted
a little bit but yeah, I'm still taking the needles every week now and trying to stay
on top of that but the rheumatoid man, it's in remission at the moment, like it's been
in remission since I was 16, 17 years old and you know, I'm feeling good personally
with the rheumatoid kind of stuff but you know, with the knee now, like we've tested
for the rheumatoid on that and it's come back clear so my rheumatologist, he's happy with
how that's going.
Yeah man, so I'm just trying to, with the injuries now, I'm just trying to get down
to the bottom of it to see what it is, there's a bit of fluid in there but it's got nothing
to do with the rheumatoid and hopefully it's just a little bit of wear and tear in there
and hopefully I can get back out in the paddock soon.
Yep, and then Tyrell, obviously you got to debut for your junior club, your family history
and your upbringing is well documented and I still remember, I was there on your debut
night and the photo with all your family and I think I saw it at the Leagues Club after that.
And obviously you were smiling like a Cheshire cat, how was your upbringing and then to
then go on and play for the Dragons, can you give us a bit of info on that and how that
Yeah, so I grew up in, I was growing up in Dapto, Kunawara, yeah just played footy for
Dapto Canaries, under sixes to under 18s and progressed through obviously Harrah Martin
SG ball with the Steelers there and played alongside a few of the boys there.
Junior Moan, FIBA boys, Joshi Korek who's also in our system and yeah, sort of made
a quick transition from I guess SG ball into first grade, probably happened a bit quicker
than I guess most players but Hook at the time trusted me and gave me a game and he
also told me throughout the week that it sort of happened a lot quicker than he would have
So I sort of wanted to go out with two hands and try and get my hand on the ball as much
And yeah, it was pretty cool, I get to debut in Wollongong in front of all my family and
friends and it's also close to home, only ten minutes down the road so it's been a cool
experience and I love my footy so far and being at this club, it's sort of a blessing
for myself because obviously being a local junior you have a lot of pride in the jersey
and I feel like it means a lot to me.
It means a lot more to the local juniors, to the players that come in but for myself
now it's going to be a bit of a challenge but to get this club back where it needs to
be, I want to be a part of it and going for what we're going for now, I'm still enjoying
it and I'm sure there's going to be better days ahead.
Mate, 28, 29 games in now, you've already doubled the tries I scored, you scored another
great try last night.
Hopefully the Dragons fans get to see that for the next ten years.
Hopefully the Dragons fans get to see that for the next ten years and plenty of success
with that as well.
Birdie, obviously you were a Dragons junior, moved on before you got to play first grade,
went to Cronulla, you won a comp in your second year, played for New South Wales, Dallium
Rookie of the Year, you know, went to Broncos, had a couple of really injury-disrupted years
up there and they're now back in the gong, mate, how's that journey to go full circle
and come back to the club you grew up as a kid supporting and who you loved?
I didn't support the Dragons.
I actually supported the Knights, but...
It's gone a bit flaccid, that whole microphone on your front.
Yeah, it keeps dropping down, man.
That's what she said.
I'm going to back up, but it's all right.
Yeah, so like you said, I was a Dragons junior, came through the ranks there.
It was actually...
So I think they wanted to re-sign me for one more year,
but I got the opportunity to go to the Sharks for two years
and I knew that I wanted to play first grade.
So I think the Sharks won the Wooden Spoon the year before,
the year before, like two years before that.
So I just thought that was the best opportunity for me to get in the first grade.
Went up there and, yeah, man, I loved every moment up there.
You know, that was probably the most enjoyable my career was,
especially when the GOAT came in 2017, I think it was.
Yeah, in 2017, and I think that's what drove me out of the Sharks.
Hey, I left before you did not.
Did you go at the same time?
No, I left 2018, bro.
I left at the start of 2018, so you pretty drove me out of there.
I think I left because you left.
I was like, fuck it, birdie ain't here, I'm leaving.
But, yeah, man, it was good up at the Sharks,
and then, you know, I kind of wanted to stay there,
but there was a few things going on behind the scenes.
They were trying to sign other players,
and stuff like that, so there wasn't much room for me to stay,
so I left to the Broncos, and, yeah, that was a hard time up there.
Obviously, I had some injuries and that kind of stuff like that,
but, I mean, it's made me who I am today, I guess,
like the person I am.
You know, I don't take things for granted anymore, that's for sure.
You know, in the blink of an eye, you can stop playing rugby league
because of the injuries you have, so, you know, I was pretty close.
I'm giving it up at some stages, but I think, at the end of the day,
this is all I ever wanted to do was play first grade and play football.
So, you've got to think about when you were a young kid
and where you want to be and what you want to do.
So, I kind of thought about that, and that made me, you know,
the drive to make me keep going and get back on my feet.
And then I come to the Dragons, where I never thought I'd probably end up again
after my first stint here, and being a local junior, like Tyrell said before,
it means a lot to the, you know, to the locals and the community
and having my family down there and all my friends that I grew up with.
It's something special, but, you know, I've had a few, you know,
back-to-back seasons playing now, but obviously starting to get injured
a little bit again now, but, you know, hopefully it's nothing too major.
And, yeah, man, hopefully I've got a few more years left in the tank
because I'm only 28, and hopefully I can retire when I'm 34,
and start doing what you're doing and earn your top money.
Mate, yeah, you touched on, yeah, obviously you started,
you played over 20 games in LA every year, had that three injury-disrupted years,
and then I did see that, yeah, your last two seasons you played over 20 games.
And, mate, I do tell you, my effing favourite player, even my son knows that.
He gets, he got a Jack Bird footy card, and he gave it to me.
Nah, framed it, framed it.
But, I know, I think, for the people.
For people sort of listening and watching, you know, Jack can, you know,
he may rub people up the wrong way sometimes, but he's the most loyal, passionate, caring,
and I don't often piss in your pocket like this, but I will,
but you care so much about, you know, everything to do with your footy
and, you know, your friends and family.
So, I hope people realise when you speak, you speak from the heart,
and they can understand, yeah, get a bit of insight to what you like
because you do care, and I always laugh when I fucking watch you play
and you're getting up and you're pushing and you're looking to fight someone all the time
because you play with so much passion.
Yeah, that just comes with the game.
Like, I hate losing, and like you said, most people don't know who I am
and what I'm like as a person.
Like, I might, like you said, rub people up the wrong way,
and sometimes I speak before I think, and I speak my mind,
and it comes out the wrong way sometimes,
but it does come from a, you know, a soft spot in the heart.
Like, I don't mean it sometimes in that type of way, what they think,
but, you know, I'm a realist, man.
I like being real.
I don't like being fake.
I like being myself.
And that's all you can ask from someone.
You know, if someone's fake, you don't know what type of person you're going to get day in, day out.
So I just like speaking the mind and come the fuck off if I have to.
That's why I want to talk about that because, obviously, you know,
the people that know you and your friendship group and your family
obviously love you and know who you are, but I don't think some people,
because they only see what's in the public eye.
They don't know you boys behind the camera or, you know,
personal level, but, you know, you're a good man and I just wanted to make that known.
After this, though, don't talk to me.
So you mentioned you touched about Junior and Bud and the boys.
So, mate, how's that?
And I think, you know, for the Dragons in the future, you know,
you boys coming through and playing that footy together will hold us in good stead.
But how's that now?
You know, sort of these boys you used to play backyard footy with
and all your junior footy to now be out living your dreams playing for the Dragons.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
I grew up with...
I grew up playing against him and then started playing with him
in junior reps and stuff like that.
And, yeah, it is cool to play on the field with them.
You know, it's sort of weird, too, you know.
I played against Junior my whole life.
He was a West Devils Junior and I was a Canaries Junior.
So, now to be on the big stage, I guess, together and also Matty Figuai.
Oh, he's a Junior from West Devils as well, but he comes from Leighton.
You know, having those boys there makes it a lot easier.
Like, I remember my first pre-season, you know, Birdie was there.
I didn't know much about Birdie until the last couple of years.
So, I've gotten real close with Bird.
You used to play Fortnite with him as well.
Before I come to the club.
Yeah, a little funny story.
Birdie's best mates with Bud's brother-in-law.
And they used to play Fortnite together.
And, you know, I jumped on there when I could and I'm shit at it.
I used to go mute because I was always nervous.
Like, I'm playing with an NRL player, you know.
Because he was at Broncos at the time.
Yeah, at the Bronx.
And now look at us now.
We're brothers now and...
Mate, that's what you love to see, mate.
But he doesn't play Fortnite with me anymore.
Nah, because he dogs me sometimes.
Too busy buying houses.
Mate, hey, that's good, mate.
But, yeah, no, getting back to that, it is cool to play with the boys.
And, you know, it's something I don't take for granted as well.
You know, not only for them but for myself as well.
It's a good position that, you know, we're in.
And I'm very grateful.
I've been in this position but I also work hard for it too.
Yeah, you do, mate.
And that's, yeah, like I touched on, I can't wait to see over the next few years.
And, obviously, I'll get to Shane Flanagan shortly.
But, yeah, it should be good to watch Flanagan's dad.
Nah, just talking about you two boys, I actually got a tip up.
Yous are roomies on away trips.
I heard there's been a few incidents in the rooms.
I'll throw to Jack first.
Or, actually, no, I'll let you go first.
I'll go you first and then I'll let Tyrell.
Yeah, so I've changed roommates about three times this year
because Slaney wanted a room with me.
So I had to make some tough calls with Dozer at the start.
And then I kind of had to go.
Oh, the captain doesn't get his own room?
No, he likes being with people.
But he just sits there and watches the horse racing or cows or whatever it is.
He likes buying cows or whatever it is.
So I'm just sitting there.
I'm like, fuck this.
I'm not into this stuff.
I want to have some fun.
So Slaney wanted to come with me.
And I asked the fellow.
He freaking swapped.
And then little did I know, Slaney's a big sleep talker
and likes sleepwalking around and that.
Like, fuck, one night I'm sleeping and I'm, like, half asleep
and I just hear this kind of noise.
I'm looking at him.
He's like, hard dead asleep.
What a good reason for it.
And then I fell asleep and I woke up again and the cat's in my bed.
Stuggling me and that.
Tyrell, do you want to respond to this?
So you're a bed hopper.
You've jumped in bed with Jack Bird.
I just like cuddles, bro.
He's a bit thick in here, so I get to hug him.
He's very cuddly.
Yeah, he's very cuddly.
Well, I get the big bed.
He gets the little single bed.
Yeah, well, rookie.
But, you know, I have to pay respect to my elders.
Respect to my elders.
No, he's a big bear, so I get to cuddle him.
No, it's good, bro, because he doesn't even go to bed that late.
I'm trying to get to bed at, like, 11.
He's still up watching TikTok.
I use boat, go to bed late.
No, I like going to bed early on game night.
Like, it depends.
What time we play.
I like eating pizza before game day.
Yeah, correct, correct.
You know, get it going and that.
That's probably why I look like Blocker on YouTube.
Blocker's Blake Laurie for those listening and watching.
Shout out to Blake.
Yeah, big blocker.
Tyrell, sorry, you're both of Indigenous background,
but I spoke to you before.
You obviously don't drink and, mate, very commendable,
and especially in this day and age, you know,
with peer pressure and different things,
but then being a role model in the Indigenous community,
what does your culture mean to you and, you know,
for yourself, your choice to not drink?
I didn't say that to you, Jack.
I looked at Tyrell.
Yeah, I'm a Red Drew boy.
My family's all out from Condobolin,
but I grew up down here and obviously my nan raised me,
so, yeah, she instilled in us at a young age,
you know, the good and bad,
and obviously you know what the good and bad is
when you're a young kid,
but, yeah, I grew up around a lot of drugs and alcohol,
and that's just the reason why I don't do it
is because I've seen, you know, the bad side of things
and, you know, it's sort of put me in the right direction
because, you know, I've only seen the bad of it, so.
But I respect the boys, you know,
whenever there's a drink up, you know, I always go there and...
Yeah, sort of look after the boys.
So, yeah, but I always, yeah, I just said I respect, you know,
what the boys do and...
I'll get amongst it, but obviously not to an extent.
But, yeah, as you said, I don't drink just because, you know,
sort of the bad things that I've seen and, you know,
there's, I guess, nothing more to it.
Yeah, man, that's awesome.
I wish I, like, for myself had that power, yeah.
That's what I'm saying, saying that, like,
I respect the boys that don't drink because, like,
growing up as a young kid, like,
you get brought up around these things
and you've got older brothers or whatever that drink
and do whatever, cousins,
and you always look up to them when you're a young fella
and you're like, oh, I want to do it.
They do, why can't I do it now, blah, blah, blah.
But then, you know, when it's your time, like,
I don't know what it feels like for him
because he might feel pressured sometime to drink
and he's like, oh, I want to try it one day.
But his diligence is outstanding
and he actually hasn't even said,
I want to drink today or anything like that.
So it's pretty tough to do in his shoes.
Like, coming from me, I probably,
I started drinking when I was young.
Yeah, but then, yeah, like, obviously now in the NRL,
It'd be easy to go, I might start having a drink,
but you've stuck solid to your values
and obviously hearing about that history,
you've got to take your hat off
and, yeah, you are a role model now to young kids
and especially young Indigenous kids.
Yeah, I started drinking when I was, like, two, bro.
Well, mate, that's a, for me, I went seven weeks.
Just out of a shot glass.
That was my schooner, bro.
You're blind off a buck.
I went seven weeks without drinking.
Before I did this first podcast on you,
went till six in the morning.
And I come in on the Monday and my, like, head was off.
And I was just like, why do I drink?
Like, and I wish I had the power to stay off it
for 52 weeks of the year, but seven weeks is a...
Alcohol's, bro, like, definitely the biggest drug, man.
People get so hooked on that.
Because they can tax it.
But, like, I don't...
Every time I drink, bro, the next day I wake up,
I'm like, I'm never drinking again.
Two days later, I'm ready to go again.
I'm like, let's move.
Mate, it's a cycle.
Hopefully we can break that cycle.
Birdie, me and you, we need to hang out with Tyrell more.
I just need to stop talking to you.
All right, back to footy, boys.
So, change of coaches this year.
Anthony Griffin, you know, last year was well documented
about the ups and downs with him.
And, you know, I got coached by Hook myself
and I actually got along well with him.
I didn't play that well when he was my coach
and I got a couple of great sprays off him.
Did any of you boys get a great spray off him?
And, you know, what did...
You mentioned he'd give you a debut.
So, you know, you got gratitude to him for the rest of your life.
But, you know, what were you all...
Thoughts on everything and, yeah.
Like I said, Hook's a great fellow.
Like, I got along with Hook.
Like, you could sit down and have a beer with him, have a yarn.
Obviously, things didn't go the right way down there with coaching.
You know, I kind of feel sorry for him.
You know, he got me back to the club.
So, I've got to, you know, throw some gratitude to him for that.
Because, you know, coming from the Bronx,
no one really wanted me because of my injuries.
You know, he threw me a...
a second chance there, I guess,
in a way of coming back home and being around the family
and being in my local club.
So, I thank him for that.
You know, like I said, he's a great bloke, great coach.
Just things didn't work out.
I probably did get a spray a few times,
but it wasn't really, like, bad ones
because me and him got along pretty well.
And I can't really take a spray off.
If I get sprayed, I spray back.
You've got to pick personality types for your spray.
And I probably...
I needed it, whereas you're going to get up and try and fight him.
I've said it before, but, like, I speak before I think.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, like, if someone sprays me and I think I'm in the wrong,
I need to say something back.
Like, I don't like sitting back and just copping it.
But if I know I'm in the wrong, like, I'll cop it.
But, like, I'm just not who I am, eh?
But, yeah, I don't think I got a big spray off him.
Like, I got in trouble a little bit, like,
when the barbecue stuff went down and all that kind of stuff.
But it wasn't, like, a massive spray.
But he was off me a fair bit when that barbecue shit happened.
No, that's fair enough, too.
Well, not really.
Yeah, I know, I know.
I saw Josh Dugan the other day was getting,
still going to court for that from bloody a year and a half ago.
Just let them slide.
COVID's not a thing anymore.
And what about you?
Yeah, so over to you, Tyrell.
Yeah, obviously, Hook gave me my debut.
So I'm always grateful for that.
And I want to thank him for that.
But, yeah, obviously, we went through the ups and downs there.
And I've always said it whenever I get asked.
I was definitely a bit of a sook then.
And I didn't know, I guess,
what it was to be like an NRL player week in, week out.
And I probably thought I deserved it more than I put the work in for it.
And I do understand what happened and what went through.
And now it's put me in a better position this year to, I guess,
play more footy and keep learning.
And I'm still only 21 years old.
So I probably thought, oh, career's over because I'm not playing
a full season at 20 years old.
But now, looking back, I understand now.
And I'm sort of grateful for that position I got put into,
because it taught me to grow up and act like a man instead of being treated like a little kid.
That's unreal for you to acknowledge that now at the age of 21.
And you have played every game this year.
I think even for myself, I look back on my early stages and I think it took me about five years to play 50 games.
And it was always someone else's fault.
Whereas, you know, reflecting that built my resilience and give me a greater appreciation for being in the NRL.
obviously, then I'd look back and I'm like, yeah, look, that was my fault.
There was better players than me.
I needed to learn.
You're the GOAT, brother.
Off the field, bro.
Not on the field.
I was an average rugby league player.
Hey, you still played one more than the average.
Yeah, no, thank you, my brother.
And then Kari, how are you finding Kari?
Ryan Karr, the interim Dragons coach.
Yeah, well, I haven't been playing.
So I haven't been getting coached much.
No, for me, he's been good for myself.
Yeah, he was the attacking coach at the start of the year.
So, you know, he's helped help a lot with my attack for like the football is sort of
my style, you know, a bit more free and, you know, gets my hands on the ball a bit more
than previous years.
But, you know, Kari's someone that, you know, I got along with a lot because he's, I don't
know, just the way he talks and he helps me personally.
And that's the reason why, you know, I get along with him a lot.
And just the footy, as I said, he plays and now he's in our head.
He's got a great coaching role.
Obviously, he's got it for the rest of the year and, you know, he's a good bloke and, you know,
something I get along with.
Ever since he got to the club, he's brought, you know, a different aura, different attitude
towards training.
He wants to win, too.
He's very passionate, as you can see.
Like, he hates losing.
And he's a realist as well.
Like, he'll tell you straight up to your face what you've done wrong, what you've got to
work on, which is great from a coach because when you have coaches that, you know, tell you what you've done wrong,
you've got to work on it.
They'll tell you this, but then they, you know, that's not the reason why.
Like, say if you get dropped, they won't tell you why exactly, but he'll tell you straight
to the point and what you've got to work on.
So, I love him for that.
He's a great bloke.
You know, someone you can be friends with after footy for sure.
And he's only, what, 33, 34?
He's only a young fella.
Yeah, well, he's the same age as Dozer, I think.
Yeah, it's crazy, eh?
Quickly, before we jump to Flano, mate, just in the locker room, you know, boys, you know,
boys get nude in the shower.
Tyrell, I heard you're one of the first to get your kid off.
Is that fair dinkum, or?
Well, when Curry was here, I mean, he'd probably play footy nude.
He loves being naked after his bed.
Well, mate, I remember back to when I was at the Dragons.
I still wear me budgies, so I hide me.
What, the wet suit into the shower?
Yeah, I full wear board shorts and everything.
Yeah, 2018, 2019, DeBellin and Newey Aiken would just be on the ground stretching nude.
And, like, they're both.
They look great nude, but, mate, they're fully nude on the floor.
Bama gets naked a fair bit.
He's nude in the ice bath.
He doesn't get around naked.
Shoney, you wear budgies, eh?
Yeah, I wear budgies.
I was more implying what you were telling me the other day.
No, yeah, I can't say that on camera, man.
What, the baby arm?
And then Shane Flanagan, mate.
So, obviously, you won a comp with him, Birdie.
Your brother, Kyle, is he coming back?
But, yeah, what do you think he can bring to the club?
And, you know, for the Dragons fans who are listening and watching,
you know, what can they look forward to with Flano?
Yeah, Flano's massive.
You know, obviously, I played under him for three years at the Sharks,
won a comp under him.
Probably played my best footy under him.
So, you know, I'm excited myself to be coached by him again.
I think he's just going to bring a whole different attitude
towards training and all that kind of stuff.
Like, he's the type that you've been coached by him.
He brings the team together.
He makes us close.
when I was at the Sharks,
we've always went off a thing where, like,
if you can trust someone off the field,
you can trust them on the field.
So, we're always tied to the Sharks.
Like, we were all good mates there.
Always, you know, whatever we did, we did it together.
I think that's something that he brings us pretty strong on.
I don't know about his son, Kyle.
I don't know if he's coming or not.
Oh, yeah, that was just a toss-up.
Yeah, well, I don't know, man.
Like, I don't know if he's going to come or not.
Like, I haven't really spoke to Flano about that.
Like, I've spoke to him about what my role is next year
and what he wants me to do.
But, yeah, I'm excited, man.
I'm excited to get him back, back at the club.
I'm happy for him to get his coaching gig back,
you know, be a head coach.
He's been waiting a while now, so.
And I'm just grateful for it to be at the Dragons where I am.
hopefully I can get back to playing good footy under him.
And, you know, he probably knows my body best besides me.
So, hopefully he can get me back on the paddock
and playing good footy.
And even, you know, he's had Benny Barber there.
He had Michael Gordon.
So, he's had some more.
He's had some more unreal fullbacks
and someone you can learn a lot off, I reckon.
Tyrell, did you actually?
I was only weighing 88 kilos.
88, sorry, sorry.
What are you now?
Oh, that's not too much.
Tyrell, yeah, for you, like, yeah, you're looking forward to.
Was he, did you boys have him at the Dragons
in the last couple of years?
Well, he was an assistant before we got there.
And then when I got there,
he wasn't there at all.
And then he come back as a recruitment.
So, I don't have much to do with Flannery.
I guess in the coaching scheme.
But I always talk to him, you know, when he was around the club.
And I mentioned the other day, but he brushed me.
See if I have a job next year.
Must change his number.
Change his number.
And that's, I don't know, really cares about my opinion.
But I think he, you know, he's a fantastic recruiter.
He recruited that team to Cronulla and, mate, from outside looking in,
you had the team.
You had Lukey Lewis, Wade Graham, Paul Gallen, Jimmy Maloney,
Chatty Townsend, Desai Wado.
Wado, like they're all guys who, some of them are nearly NRL caliber coaches
and guys that, you know, just inspiring leaders.
So, I think, you know, with what he has learned through them,
as well as his time in the NRL, yeah,
I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do for our club.
So, you know, I'm involved with the Dragons,
so I still support the club.
So, I'm looking forward to that.
Mate, you touched on.
I'm speaking your mind and I had written this down.
I remember this video session at the Sharks
and I think Flannery had this clip up where they'd scored a try on your edge
and I think Fafita jumped in and said,
oh, yeah, you've got to read that, bro.
And you go, fucking, if you fucking worked in the middle,
you effing fat fuck, we wouldn't have scored on the edge.
I was sitting in the whole room just cracked up crying.
Confirm or deny, would that have been how you reacted?
I can't even remember that, bro.
I think I'm, I think I've had a few head knocks, eh?
I can't remember that.
But that sounds like your personality.
Like, a lot of people tell me what I've done in the past
and I'm like, did I even do that?
Like, I can't even remember.
But that does sound a bit like me,
but I've only been like 21, 20 years old, so.
Fuck, you were a baby, eh?
I was a baby, man.
But yeah, fuck, he's a bit like Blocker, you know.
Fuck, do your job in the middle, you fat.
Mate, there's a little time.
I remember I was in tears sitting there.
He was like that.
You or Jimmy Maloney speaking up and saying something.
No, Jimmy's worse than me, man.
Jimmy, I probably rubbed off on Jimmy.
He was my gym partner as well.
Oh, wow, that's a worry.
He'd do two sets and walk out.
You've got 40 minutes left in the gym.
He's driving out in the car.
Literally, I remember 2017,
it was like leading into the final,
about two weeks out from the final.
He goes, damn it, Jimmy's here, boys.
Don't worry, I fucking got you.
We went out week one to the Cowboys.
I remember Mad Monday, I was in there going,
where the fuck was big game Jimmy?
Mate, he doesn't,
Doesn't like confidence.
He doesn't do anything in the gym,
but fuck, when he steps on that field, man,
he's a whole different thing, eh?
Like, he's probably one of the best players I've played with.
For such a little fella.
Like, he just, he's a tough bastard,
and he just, yeah, he's a competitor.
Self-belief, I reckon, as well.
Like, me young bloke was watching YouTube this morning.
He threw an intercept to Val,
and Val went up and scored.
But I think Jimmy just,
he forgot about it straight away.
Then he, like, leads the side around to win the game.
Like, goldfish Jimmy.
Like, he doesn't remember nothing.
No, he's, yeah, he's something special.
But, yeah, he was a great player.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And there was one more shark story.
I went to, I did ask Tyrell for one,
but he didn't give me anything.
I said, you got anything on Birdie?
What am I doing now?
You're in, he's apparently travelled somewhere,
and there's a team meeting,
and the CEO, Lyle Gorman, was out the front.
And, like, it might have been a serious,
it might have been, like, a serious meeting.
I think it was, like, before the finals or something.
And I think Lyle was coming up to me,
and you go, fucking F and O, Lyle!
And the whole room just lost their shit, crying.
Well, yeah, I chatted Townsend,
and they always say that to me every time I see him.
They go, F and O, Lyle.
They always just message me all the time,
and I'm like, I don't even know what he was talking about,
I think we were just in a circle, like, in a huddle,
and he was saying something pretty serious.
And after he finished, like, everyone's quiet,
and I just go, F and O, Lyle!
Just start clapping.
And he just looks at me like, he's our CEO,
and he's probably thinking, look at this,
he's a fucking idiot.
Fucking 21-year-old birdie fucking saying,
F and O, Lyle, let's hoge.
It was like message Val.
Val was the one who tipped me into it,
but he goes, no one else would have got away with it
at the time except you.
Well, I get away with a fair bit, a little bit,
but compared to other people.
Yeah, nice, nice.
I think it's just how I am, but...
It is, mate, and that's just speaking your mind.
Like I said, I speak your mind.
If you speak your mind, they know who you are
If you're fake, and then you come out
and be someone you're not,
they'll be like, who the fuck's this?
And then you get in trouble for it,
but because they know what I'm like,
they're like, yeah, that's just him being in.
Tyrell, mate, you've 21,
just got your first house, mate.
How's all that going
and how are you feeling about that?
I just want to thank you for coming to me
for your mortgage as well, mate.
I really appreciate it.
Did you actually go to him?
You're a dog birdie.
I'm still waiting for you to send your dogs back.
I need to refinance.
I might go to a different fella.
Yeah, mate, you're dope.
No, the house is good.
I'm settled in now.
It took me about a hundred for a month
and I didn't move in until a month after that.
You want to sell it now, though?
No, I don't want to sell it.
so it's not far where I grew up
and played junior footy,
so I got my best mate
and my cousin living with me there,
so they'll look after the joint
when we're not around.
Nothing to do to it.
so can't wait for summer, eh?
It's too cold at the moment.
Recovering the pool?
I don't see me in a cold bath,
but I'm in a hot bath only.
Do you know any gardeners, Bart?
Because the tree out the back
keeps dropping leaves.
He doesn't want to clean it.
Any Wollongong listeners,
if you own a backyard cleaning business
reach out to a man, Tyrell.
Yeah, go down, Bart.
And how important is that?
Obviously, you're 21,
and I know you're very forward-thinking financially
and you've invested well,
but how important,
is using this time you have
playing professional rugby league
to set yourself up
for the 30 to 40 years after that
and then having freedom of choice
in what you do after rugby league
and making the right choices now
so you don't have to work a nine-to-five
for the rest of your life
when you do retire?
I think it's massive, eh?
I wish I bought a house in Cronulla
when I was there,
and now I'm looking to buy a house in Cronulla
and they're like $2 million more.
I'm like, Jesus Christ.
Don't worry, mate.
I'll squeeze that out for you.
I told you I'm going different,
I wish I started investing a little bit earlier
I was kind of scared
because when I was at the Sharks,
I was on minimum wage,
so when you're on minimum wage,
you kind of get nervous
with you not having any money,
but that's not how it works
because you can borrow money off the bank,
which I didn't understand at the time.
So I didn't really invest my money.
I just saved it from my Sharks days
and when I moved to Brizzy,
I bought a house up there.
I've still got that house,
which is doing well for me.
What about the Lexus?
I bought that Lexus
when I first went to the Sharks.
Yeah, you just said it.
You went to the Sharks.
Yeah, but that was just
to get me from A to B.
I was driving with it.
Back on track, yeah.
Yeah, but then I think it's massive.
Like, Sony and even Bud.
Bud's bought a house now as well.
You know, them being 20, 21 years old,
I think it's the right move for them
financially and in the long run.
And once they get their foot in the door more,
like, they've got another 15 years ahead of them,
so they're going to be earning
you know, 600 plus K a year.
For the next 10 years, hopefully.
And that's going to set them up massively
financially, like investing in property,
Shares now are massive.
Yeah, so I think, you know,
Sony buying his first house now,
I think he's got the foot in the door now
and I think that's just going to keep rolling over.
He's going to want to buy another property
and another property
and then eventually when he's retired,
he's not going to have to work.
And that's something I don't want to do.
Mate, I'm getting old
and I've had some near-ending careers
and I'm like, fuck,
I don't want to work, man.
No, but you need to fill your day, mate.
I've spoken to you about this.
I don't want to be on the tools bar.
I don't want to be digging holes.
I know, I know, I know.
They're the real OGs.
They're the ones waking up at six
and digging holes.
Like, that's something I probably can't do.
I'll try, but I probably won't be good at it.
I'll probably chuck a dummy spin
Walk off, come back
and be like, fuck, let's go.
What are we doing?
Then they'll tell me what to do.
I'm like, fuck this.
Mate, you would for sure.
You'd be the worst bloke to have as an employee.
I'd be like, where's the broomstick?
I'll just get rid of this mud over here
and start brooming it away.
But yeah, like the people that do that,
like they're massive
because they don't earn much money
and they're getting up every day
doing that for the, you know,
We're pretty lucky financially,
but it's just being smart with your money.
Obviously, a lot of people that play footy
that hasn't got much money before,
they'll get this money and just blow it.
You know what I mean?
Because they get excited
and they're like,
oh, I've never had this.
Let's fucking start spending.
Where you've got to start probably,
you know, you've got to have a,
I guess, a way of spending and saving
and how much you can spend and save.
So I think that's something massive
and Sloane, he's pretty tight with his money.
He doesn't, he only shouts me.
That is calling the kettle black, man.
I know how tight you are, Matty.
He only shouts me brekkie every now and then,
but I mean, he's pretty good saving money.
So, you know, that's something
that I encourage, you know, young fellas to do
and he's pretty good with it, so.
Good stuff, Tyrone.
And have you got some, like,
was that just a personal thing you wanted to buy
or someone sort of advising you, you know,
what to do with your money?
It was more personal.
Growing up in houses commission,
it was something that I've always wanted to do
was buy my own house
and it was sort of a bet too.
Like, my brother bought his house at 21
and I got one at 20.
So, he's my older brother,
so I wanted to get one up on him.
And that was something I did,
but it was sort of a,
a grateful moment too
and a thank you to my nan, you know,
because she raised us in housing commission.
So, to buy a house while she's still here
and, you know, be able to show her
and walk her through it
and, you know, she's never been in a house that nice.
So, I guess now to bring her over whenever
and for her to be comfortable now
and, you know, just put a smile on her face
and that's what I want to do.
Mate, yeah, that's unreal.
And, mate, when's the next one?
Already forward thinking, mate?
You need a broker, mate, on there?
Hopefully next year or something like that.
No, in seriousness, mate,
you want to buy some land?
Put some units on it and that?
I'll have to run the job site.
You won't want to get dirty.
I'll have to do all the hard work.
You do all the hard work
and I'll just overlook everything.
Supervised, mate.
But then I'll come to you for the mortgage broken.
Okay, done, done.
You know, what's the life of a rugby league player like?
And, you know, as an outsider looking in,
people often say,
oh, mate, they get paid too well.
You know, they get to live their life.
You get to do what you love,
which, you know, a lot of that is true.
But then, you know, you've touched on your injuries
and even you at a young age,
you've been in and out of first grade.
Obviously, you established yourself this year.
But, you know, then the club's not doing well this year.
So, you know, you've got the fans have an opinion
and Joe Blow's got an opinion.
Then you've got to, you know,
you've got to take the feedback on from the coach.
You know, you're with your teammates
and trying to keep the mood up.
You know, it definitely teaches you resilience
and mental strength.
But, you know, do you want to go into that?
You spoke about injuries and stuff, Bertie.
But, you know, even just dealing with the form
and outside opinion and views
and, you know, how you zero in
and really keep your focus
on what you're trying to do and achieve for yourself.
Yeah, I've always been pretty strong-minded.
It just comes back to my dad
and always teaching me, you know,
to be strong-minded and be proud of who you are.
But, you know, last couple of years
when I've been in and out of grade,
it's sort of rocked me a bit
because I didn't know how to handle it.
And sort of being around,
these older guys that have been in the game
a lot longer than me helps a lot.
You know, just, you know,
I've got a close with Bertie and Moe Embiid this year.
And, you know, having them guys there
that have, I guess, done it all.
You know, Moe's been in grand finals,
played Origin, Bertie's played Origin,
won comps and just leaning on them
and, you know, getting advice from them guys.
And, yeah, each and every day, you know,
there's a challenge, you know.
Everyone can have an opinion on us.
You know, we can't go to a job site and say,
you're not laying the bricks right.
You know what I mean?
And, you know, that's what I mean.
It gets hard like that.
But I think just switching off from social media,
you know, plays a massive part
in finding a second hobby.
You know, me being from the country,
I like to go out and ride the motorbikes
and switch off that sort of way
and, you know, get away from, you know,
I guess the city, Wollongong,
and just do my own thing
and, you know, try to kill time like that.
But, I don't know.
What do you like about him, Bertie?
He's like Tyrell Dutton, you know.
Yeah, I do, yeah.
That's great, mate.
Nature's where it's at.
Disconnect the rig.
Yeah, being a footy player,
there's heaps of pressure.
Obviously, you know what it's like firsthand.
You know, you play a shit game,
you're going to get people
that have always got opinions on you
or whatever you do.
No matter what you do,
you're always in the fishbowl.
And it's hard because, you know,
you try and play your best every week.
You don't go out there to play shit
or get injured or whatever.
And it's always hard because people have opinions.
And I think the biggest thing is to stay off social media
because social media is the biggest killer these days
that, you know, push people off the edge.
Whereas, you play a bad game,
someone's going to write something
or someone's going to message you personally
And that's the hard part.
Like, I think, just don't read anything about football.
I think as soon as, you know, you get a job,
like people that work everyday jobs,
they don't go home.
They don't talk about their job.
I think when you're away from footy,
you just stay away from footy
and just start living a normal life.
And then when you go to footy,
you just be a footy player.
You know what I mean?
I think, yeah, the hardest part
is just trying to stay off social media
and not listening to other people's opinions
because it gets to you a little bit.
Like, obviously, I've had injuries
and all that kind of stuff.
I've played bad games.
I've played a lot of bad games.
And, you know, as a young kid growing up,
you always want to be that spotlight
and be the good player.
And when you play good games,
you love reading about yourself.
You're like, fuck it.
As soon as you play a shit game,
everyone hates you.
You're like, fuck.
Now I've got to prove these shit wrong.
You know what I mean?
And then you go out there
and you play worse
and you're like, fuck, fuck, fuck.
So I think it's just, you know,
you know what you're capable of.
You've been playing it since you were five years old
or however long you've been playing.
I think you've just got to go out there
and enjoy yourself.
I think that's the massive part.
Just enjoy playing footy
and just think of what got you there
and just keep doing that.
I think that's the main thing.
Mate, that's spot on, I reckon.
And obviously it's big business.
It's a big money industry.
But at the end of the day,
you started playing rugby league
because you love the game
and you love playing with your mates.
And you can often forget that when you're winning
and things are going great,
that's what you remember that.
But then when shit hits a fan,
you forget why you played the game
and why you love the game.
Mate, that was really well said.
I want to combat the Sharks.
I was on top of the world.
Go to the Broncos.
Everyone hates me.
That's just part of the footy world.
That's what happens.
But in a way, you know what you're capable of.
So it's just like you need to get yourself back there
and you know what it takes to get there.
You're just going to take yourself back down memory lane
what made me start loving footy
and what got me here today
is what you've got to do
and just keep doing that
and just enjoy it, man.
It's an everyday job.
People that don't play footy,
they wish they could.
So I think we're pretty grateful for that.
And we're just going to do to our luck,
just be our best, what we can be.
You know what I mean?
So just enjoy it and just be happy.
That's the main thing.
You've both touched on social media
and, you know, Origin 2 was last week
and there was Jerome Luai who, you know,
he jumped on and put a post up after the game
and obviously he's sort of made himself
public enemy number one up there.
Mate, awesome player.
Still only a young fellow.
Won two competitions and, you know,
there's sort of that tall poppy syndrome,
I reckon, a little bit with,
with him and the Panthers and, you know,
he sort of got some pretty crude things said to him.
So I feel like he had every right
to come out and say something.
But it's sort of a tricky one, you know,
you probably should try and stay off social media.
But at the same time,
he's getting told certain things
and people having a crack at him.
He's got every right to protect himself.
Like, I don't know what's being said to him,
but I can just imagine.
And like, Jerome's a player that plays with passion.
And he wears his heart on his sleeve.
Like, he goes out there and, you know,
people can call him a grub or whatever.
Like, I don't know him from Barso.
Like, I've never spoke to the fellow,
but the way he plays footy,
he plays with passion and pride.
I think for him, he probably
wanted to just come out and have an opinion
like everyone else does on him.
And he just wanted to prove his point.
But I mean, in saying that,
that's just adding fuel to the fire.
You know what I mean?
That's going to go the wrong way with the media.
Media, we all know what the media is.
You've got to jump on that.
We all know what the media is like.
They're going to bash it up
and make it sound worse than what it is.
I think personally,
it's not even a bad thing what he did.
He's probably been a realist, man.
He's probably speaking his mind.
Like, who cares, really?
Like, if that hurts people's feelings,
then you shouldn't go and hurt his feelings
by saying things.
So like, you want to go say something about him,
but if he says something about you,
oh, fuck, he said this about me.
Kicking shit up a wall, yeah.
two wrongs don't make a right.
But that's our world now, right?
Everything's social media
and you can talk about Tyrell
watching TikTok videos at 11.30 at night.
Everyone's on social media.
Including dancers.
And everyone's connected to it.
And everyone can have an opinion
at the end of the day,
but, you know, that stuff in there,
I think it was death threats.
There's no need to say that shit.
It's a game of rugby league.
It's a game of rugby league at the end of the day.
We spoke about it being
people love to support New South Wales
or people love to support Queensland.
Well, they're passionate.
Everyone hates losing.
like I just said before,
like, you play a bad game,
it doesn't mean you have to go
and say, go kill yourself
or hope your mum or your sister
or whatever dies.
Like, it's a game of footy, man.
But whatever's in the media today,
it's around the chips tomorrow.
You know what I mean?
That's what I've always said.
Like, what I've done two years ago,
no one even remembers
what I've done two years ago.
But, yeah, then you don't want
to be saying that shit to someone
because you don't know
how that's going to affect them
Like, if Jerome took that shit personally,
Everyone's got their opinion,
but sometimes their opinion's best
just to keep to themselves.
Because, like I said,
media's the biggest killer these days.
Like, no one knows
what Jerome's battling
outside of football.
You can go say something to him
and that pushes him over the edge
and then that's it.
You know what I mean?
Like, people have got to realise,
like, footy's not everything.
You know, people have lives
outside of footy.
And he could be battling whatever.
Like, I don't know.
But, like, one wrong thing
and then that's it.
You know what I mean?
You just never know.
So, I think it's just...
Show a bit of respect.
He's got to be nice, man.
If you're going to say something,
go say it to his face.
And people, you respect that more.
As long as it's not that 30 blokes around
you trying to be shell off,
you know, grabbing a cellmate.
I don't like how you carry yourself
or I don't like the way you did that, but...
Well, I don't care if people like me or not.
Like, that's just who I am.
But, like, if you don't like me,
then you don't know me.
But not everyone has that skill
where it's water off a duck's back.
Some people take shit personally
and they don't have thick skin
Oh, I don't love that.
So, quickly, you know,
we touched on a few things there,
how good is going to train every day
I'm three and a half years out of the game
and that is probably the thing
is the locker room
and the piss taking
and having a laugh
and trying to bring the mood up
you're throwing tin for...
You're looking good.
Well, you think you're looking good.
You're feeling all right.
You know, do you like that?
Like Jimmy's tin or like...
Yeah, he leaves like one dumbbell
Ken McGinnis tin.
Ken McGinnis tin.
And then, you know...
Do you used to get to train
at like five in the morning
when we start at eight like blocker?
Try and lose weight,
Does he really go to that
five in the morning?
Brown noses a bit,
comes, goes to the chains.
I can respect that sort of attitude,
No, I love blocker.
He's a good fella.
He just gets here too early for me.
What time are you going to be there?
Eight, eight-thirty.
He gets here at five.
But no, he gets here
probably like six, seven.
That's Goggins mentality.
Where's Big Goggins going?
I'm going to run through Utah,
Salt Lake City with him soon.
like you're still only 21,
so I guess, you know,
have you started to give it
And we never really got into,
you as a role model
in the Indigenous community
is that something you'd love
to go into after football?
And then I'll get to you, Jack.
Yeah, definitely.
when I was in and out
of a bit of grade there,
I went and started working
at my local primary school
and did some stuff there
with the Aboriginal kids
and it's pretty cool
because, you know,
similar background to me.
Grew up, you know,
not having, I guess,
not having that support system
and that's something
I definitely want to get into
there's a thing called
I don't know if you've,
they help kids transition
and it's pretty cool
it gives them kids
you don't have to be
a footy player to make it.
you can be a bricklayer.
You can, you know,
and that's something
to install in them
not everyone's going
it's one of the hardest
there's always light
at the end of the tunnel
it's definitely something
continue to be a role model
for the next generation
hopefully start studying
and get into that
I want to start my own,
I don't know what it would be
I don't know how you say it
but start studying
to like a program
to help the next generation.
and that's so powerful
you can have such an effect
on the young kids
because, you know,
there's a massive pool
down in the Illawarra too
kids and, you know,
the community events
and all the home games
on the hill there
pool of boys and girls
that are Aboriginal
rugby league players
we are, you know,
for whatever reason
but kids just look up
it should be bloody doctors
and these real life heroes
nurses and firefighters
they're the real life heroes
but they look up to us
and for you thinking like that
be a positive role model
and I think, you know,
sometimes rugby league players
it's something you probably
do take for granted
and you don't realise
how influential you are
but it's something that,
you really need to grab
and try to be a positive
to the younger generation.
Jack, I actually know
what you're going to be.
You're going to be
the project manager.
I'm going to be on the tools
and I'm not even going to ask
what you're going to do
Don't even bother.
You already know.
I'll see you outside of this
and I'll tell you
I can help you with that
if you want to listen to me.
Well, I'm all in, bro.
No, whatever you want, man.
I told you I want to help you
Whatever you want to do.
I want you to be proactive
because like you said,
and this is where
you need to use this time
while you are a rugby league player
to start studying.
I wish I studied at 20.
I haven't studied.
Well, that's awesome.
Your certificate.
to leave the room
or do you just want
to have a personal chat
on to the next thing.
Mate, let's touch on...
I study business, by the way.
It's a fine business.
You're so ethical, Jack.
That's off Billy Madison.
I've never watched it.
It was on Billy Madison.
Nah, sons of anarchy, bro.
All right, let's go
have a bit of a laughy.
Who's the funniest teammate
you've had, Tyrell?
Yeah, definitely.
He must have improved
since I played with him.
I've changed, bro.
It's not what he says,
it's what he does.
No, I agree, I agree.
You think I'm funny, man?
No, I love your actions, bro.
it's like what you do.
Like you just don't give it
like the effing Lyle
and fuck you for feeding your fat.
Just start lobbing people.
Yeah, you just...
You tell it how it is.
And what about you, Birdie?
because I'm in the room, mate.
You can say anyone else you want.
You can't say yourself.
I don't know, man.
Yeah, Kerry's funny,
but like he's like, yeah, he's...
But you're more laughing at him?
Yeah, I'm not laughing at him.
I'm laughing at him.
What about Maloney?
He's torture, though.
I don't know, eh?
Like, told you, man.
I've got a bad memory, eh?
What about your least favourite
teammate outside of Paul Vaughan?
going to start punching on, bro?
going to start talking about boxing?
I've been boxing lately, man.
Don't you just like each other?
No, he wasn't my favourite teammate,
but something happened.
I messaged him on Instagram
and he talked it up,
said he wouldn't now.
He's not doing it,
so I've just let that shit say.
Or he said when he comes back from...
If you're going to fight,
I'll get something for you.
until when he's back from England.
I'll get something for you
if you want to fight.
Who, you out the front?
And then what about...
All right, you want to comp,
Like, what was the Mad Monday
after you won a competition?
Like, was that unbelievable?
What kind of question is that?
Well, in Cronulla,
like, they'd never won a competition.
No, it was good, man.
I just went home and slept.
I didn't go out or anything.
Didn't party or nothing.
It was pretty chill.
But any funny stories
that you can share
with the viewers and watchers?
That's confidential.
We've got a reporter over here.
I'm not speaking anything.
I've actually got a funny
He won from when I played with him.
You'll friggin' love this.
when the NRL team
made the grand final
and lost to Manly.
I played in the Reggie's.
Who was he? Warriors.
We lost to Reggie's grand final
And then I think our under-20s won.
They beat the Cowboys in extra time.
So that was on Sunday night.
So we stayed in Australia.
We got Warriors then as well.
Yeah, it was Warriors then.
Yeah, I just said that.
Obviously, I was like...
You just got fired at like 40-0.
They only just lost to Manly
I played Reggie's.
That was Melbourne Storm.
I've got a bad memory, bro.
That was Russ Aitken, bro.
Yeah, that was Russ Aitken.
I remember that grand final.
I was actually wearing
a Warriors jersey around.
Were you actually?
Everyone got them
behind the Warriors.
No, because Manly
were like the big dogs back then.
They were unreal then.
I'm going for the underdog
and warming my Stacey Jones shirt.
Well, maybe you brought us down
and that's why they lost.
Or a Jimmy Maloney shirt.
Maloney on the back,
It would have been
your size back then.
And then, yeah, anyway,
so that was Sunday night,
and then Tuesday morning
we've gone back to,
and the taxi driver
to Jimmy Maloney's house.
Anyway, he turns up at his house
has put his stuff out the front.
you know how sweet Jessie is,
but she obviously
had enough of Jimmy,
which I don't blame her for.
he's opened up the mail thing
and he's yelling out to Kato.
Kato was like one half
Like, open the door.
eventually he opens the door
and goes upstairs
and he was dressed
as Freddie Flintstone.
I'll never forget that.
Freddie Flintstone.
and I'll go to Simon Mentoring
and he just goes,
get the fuck out of here,
Get the fuck away from me.
And then I'm looking at Jimmy
like a naughty boy.
And then he comes out,
I just get looking at him
because he had that
Freddie Flintstone.
Freddie Flintstone wig on.
I've got a thousand stories
that you can't repeat
but that was just
a little funny one.
seeing Jimmy in the action
He's all bark, no bite.
Jess is the big dog there.
So there's nothing good
happening in 2016?
Ah, not really man.
Oh, there was a few things
documented actually
Ah, it was alright.
we went back to the Sharks
with our families
and then all the fans
but I actually went to bed
because like I was
for the day after
and then things started
going off a little bit there.
We went down to Northies
and crowd surfing
and all that kind of stuff.
It wasn't really like...
That was Jimmy again
what Jimmy was doing.
Thought he was a rock star
So if I was going to say
most annoying team mate
that's got to be him surely.
There's no one else
more annoying than him
at the Dragons now.
Who's the most annoying
team mate at the Dragons
He's annoying to me.
He always touches
I'm just sitting there
and like fingers my ear
fuck, leave me alone bro.
Just always wants to touch me
so I was getting my boobs
I want to touch your boobs.
I want to touch his boobs.
They're bigger than mine.
I'm sucking them.
Most annoying team mate.
I know who you want to say.
Turn the cameras off.
Turn the cameras off.
Probably Birdie as well.
Fuck, how are you
getting on today?
Oh, got you bro, got you.
Hey, Southern Train Line.
One bedroom apartment.
Did you used to drive a van down?
the old dragons of us.
is there anyone that lives
in Sydney other than Birdie?
Is Sua in Sydney?
Yeah, Sua's in town.
Oh, you can never
get the bus back.
what else is there?
That might be it now.
Oh, there's a couple.
Because Woodsy was there,
Lex, a couple of young boys.
Yeah, a couple of young fellas.
We're young boys, eh?
Thanks for coming along
for the chat, mate.
and show everyone
what the real Jack Bird's like.
The Berkeley brawler.
Don't get any trouble
I'm in the boxing now, bro.
for a bit of cash.
I know there's a fella
you were talking about
down the railway.
fight Brock Lesnar,
Nah, it was good.
But he wants to be
But nah, genuinely,
it was a great chat, Birdie.
And for Tyrell, mate,
mate, for a young guy,
you can see you've really
got your head on your shoulders
You're setting the example
for the next generation
we'll be following
over the next few years
you boys progress.
Well, I work at the Dragons
anyway, but especially you, mate.
Carving up the field
for years to come.
Thanks for coming along