hey guys welcome back to ebbs and flows where we talk about the highs and lows on and off the field
today i'm up on gold coast joined by the king of palmy prince prince prince how are you if you're
the prince who's the king uh i guess tino now i guess he can't but he lives up north side so it's
kind of it's kind of hard you know he lives up um by training that i keep telling him to uh come
down to palmy ways and that but family family man yeah um bro so we'll just start there tino
10-year contract those sort of contracts seem like crazy to me as someone who sort of got like
one-year contracts i think the longest one i got was like a three and i felt like i was safe
uh obviously you must be super stoked as a titans boy but talk about that contract from your
perspective and the club's perspective how important is it i remember uh like me and tino
are pretty good mates and he's kind of he was going on saying he wants like a 10-year deal and
i was like and literally i think without naming names i'm pretty sure like
every club was pretty keen to sign up for 10 years and he was very keen to stay on the gold
coast so and i was just saying there's no way our club isn't gonna offer a 10-year i mean i feel
like we would have been silly not to you know he's a captain he's 23 he's won a comp he's won
a world cup he's won multiple origin series i feel like he's only gonna get better like and
he's a hard worker so it's like he's just a big freak who doesn't really care and he's obviously
a leader in our club so i was like yeah clubs would get you know roasted it'd be a dumb decision
if they don't do it so
and then i guess for us players it's reassuring that you know someone like that who's been there
done that wants to stay at the club and i guess he wouldn't stay unless he actually generally thought
you know we can go somewhere so it's pretty good um did you ever feel like he was gonna leave at
any time not really i remember him saying to me like uh pretty confidently and i feel like he
would be pretty honest with me you know he always joked and be like see you later like all the best
you know but um no i feel like he was always pretty like he goes
he just said kept saying like i don't want to leave the boys and that so i feel like um the good
thing in a club at the moment is everyone's kind of re-signing or at least wanting to re-sign so
i'm just trying to keep um our core base it's pretty young at the moment so um who is your
core base that you reckon obviously yourself afida tino um do you guys sort of have conversations
behind the scenes of like i might might be sober might be on the piss or like fuck we got something
here yeah no we um we got a bit of a lot of stuff going on so i think it's going to be a bit of a
big uh about seven or eight of us signed till 26 you know jc kiano kenny tanner like phil sammy
milwaukee i think's um on the verge of re-signing hopefully re-sign bk i think um yeah pack you know
david tino molly veros is young like i'm semi young my body's pretty old i was surprised how
young you were because i feel like you've been around for ages and i've known you for a bit
and i've only played 90 something games so i've missed two years on the seat uh injuries but um
uh nah we gotta when you look at it like that
spines young obviously foreign about 42 43 whatever he's pushing but um we do have a young
squad and it feels that way and i feel like um everyone's keen to stay together and just hopefully
you got players playing you know under 50 games a lot like a fair few on our team hopefully once
they start getting their second third season starts getting some consistency i feel like
their second year of first grade it's like really hard they used to call it like second year syndrome
i don't really hear it anymore i think the first year is so exciting because you play new stadiums
you go up against a lot of people and you're like oh my god i'm gonna be like i'm gonna be like
you've run out you can see them across the field what do you reckon makes that second year
so hard so much harder i honestly don't know but i do believe it's a thing because
people said that to me in 2018 i came in played 15 games and i was like um i thought this is mad
i was just buzzing every week and like it's hard to like especially for people to think or hear like
you know you got to try and get up every week and as obviously playing in it was the dream and it's
sick but like there is definitely times where you're like wow we got to go down to shark park
atlanta two in the hour it's going to be it's going to be like hard for the boys to get up as
compared to playing friday night at sea bus urson penrith or whatever or broncos you know what i
mean or warriors or what yeah otherwise um but i i think i don't know if it's a bit of like you
kind of come on the scene everyone's just like you just got so much energy and then there's not
really much expect expectations on you you just kind of come in do your job and if you're decent
everyone's like he's good you know you can handle nrl and then the next year it's kind of like
all right you're an established kind of nrl player now you should be doing it and then you're like
oh this weekend we get when you don't it's kind of like i guess teams start id'ing you a bit more
and whatnot that's a big one the idea part because obviously they've got a year of like um footage of
you and everybody's playing halves or fullback it's hard to identify weaknesses pretty quick
and a lot of us halves or fullbacks um our biggest weakness is always defense isn't it
that's why i try to play fullback look after their shoulders um tino obviously we're going
to swing back to him a little bit because i watched him from the outside and i remember
when i was partying a few boys after the queensland victory up in vira
and yeah um i asked sandor sandor i was like but where's tino and he goes um he wanted to get to
the gold coast put his roots down early because he wanted to be part of the leadership and this
is like he would have been 20 yeah yeah um just won a competition just won the origin when when
new boys are running the muck around there and to think that good times yeah great times great times
money money money um but like to think someone that young is that much sure it must be like fun
as a player and what's he like as a captain and leadership style is he very vocal i know he leads
by actions but what's he saying behind um closed doors he's um he's a bit of like he's a big dumb
boy like we call him dumb boy and you ask the melbourne boys they like harry and that they'll
say how is he a captain in terms of like when he was there obviously he's a good player and that
but he's just he's he's a big dumb boy he's always taking the piss like we'll be in meetings and he's
poking your rib you know but then he still has that confidence where he'll get the group in
you know not even on the field like in a meeting say what he expects um so he's obviously at least
by his actions as everyone sees on the field but he's really like determined and invested in the
club and you can see it like things like that like he'll come back uh the fittest forward you
know and he'll eat well in the off season he's not he won't go off sign 10 years like mad like
he'll he feels like you know he owes the club premierships and that sort of thing and he rides
that pretty hard so he definitely has his jokes and that but he's a good player and he's a good
guy he's he's got his serious side and he's he likes to get around the boys and that david for
feeder uh we get to see him on obviously this year has been great for him but what's he like as well
like obviously we don't really know him on a personal level um he gets a lot of critique
because he did have that million dollar tag on him for a little while and i think sometimes that's a
burden but what's he like behind closed doors he's good man he's um he's a funny fellow he's uh
he's uh he's another kind of dumb boy that i call he's kind of dumb boys you know they're
he's he's switched on as well though he's not silly with um that sort of stuff he knows
you know what he can bring to a team and what he's worth and that sort of stuff and
now he cracks me up um david he's he's been really good this year he's i think he went
sober for about six months um trimmed down his way to come back pretty heavy from tonga camp
as you do as yeah i said this year i said i hope you get picked aussies this year because
can't be having that buffet again uh fozzy obviously he was a year younger than me but
i always admired the way he played and when um one of my coaches said you should try and build
your game off him and he's still doing it very different character give us a breakdown on fozzy
and what he's meant to you in the club he's um he's alleged fozzy he's i'm actually surprised
you're older than him you're okay yeah yeah he's um he's tough man he's been getting needles in
his toes and his sternum the last like 10 weeks to play he's um his sternum was crook uh he injured
it uh didn't play last week injured against canola and he's already like trying to get a
cortisone in it to finish the year i'm like bro like you know like look after your body a bit like
there's the last two games your sternum's been cooked all year but he's passionate again he's
another passionate person at the club but he is a bit different you know he's um but i think he's
really enjoying being around like young lads yeah he's enjoying like him and tanner boyd have kind
of kind of just leeched to him pre-season to the point where it's a bit embarrassing you know like
bro give him a break but uh their missus um hang out and they do their little trips and that now
so that's that's pretty cool but um he loves the beer
he's he's good man he's he's played since i think 2011 or was it oh nine or yeah maybe maybe
chaise was 2011 but was he before then yeah he would have debuted oh nine i remember it was
against like melbourne same plays the same way it's a long long time yeah mate and he gets me
at training every time i'm even i'm on the back door and i think it's going to be every time he
goes in goes in and just yeah no he's he's tough man um obviously the switch up in coaching has
been a bit of a curveball justin holbrook come in with a lot of raps around him as a rookie coach
what'd you learn from
justin holbrook and are you i wouldn't say excited but what excites you about dizzy coming in
um with desi uh chat to foz and that sort of stuff and i've heard i've even um heard this
story like george rose and that says and i was cracking up about like i'm pretty scared to be
honest uh but i'm also keen i'm like i think we need that that hard edge uh sort of coach i think
justin justin's a great coach and i still chat to him and then that sort of stuff but um i feel like
squad in particular and especially the way the game's going with like you know it's not the same
even when i came in compared to when rookies come in you know everyone's just on the same level now
even when i came in boys like pizza and proctor and that like they wouldn't really chat to you
too much you kind of had to earn that whereas now it's like squad number 36 and tino good everyone's
on the same page which is good it's good for juniors and that coming in but i feel like
come what comes with is then like i guess entitlement and that is as young players and
i think desi's probably going to bring a hard edge that
most of us haven't really had yet in terms of like copying really bad sprays and holding everyone
trying like very accountable i've heard from fozzy's like very detailed and he's not going
to kind of let little things slide so i'm excited to see i've already kind of was thought oh you
know probably got a bit comfortable last few years yeah in terms of just my relationship with justin
and just kind of knowing i'd be in that 13 whereas now i'm like okay now i really have to want to
impress desi and be as fit as i can for preseason and show him what he's got and i think that's
really important because i'm a tough guy he's got a gunner he doesn't know what you're like you
know i guess sees you on the way on the weekend but throughout the week and that sort of stuff so
i'm actually looking forward to the challenge that that kind of team has in in terms of like
him just yeah not really letting slide and having a coach that's won there an nrl level
before yeah i love that also i interviewed cardi a couple weeks back and i go do you regret going
to the titans and he goes i don't regret going there but at the time bruno even though i loved
bruno he wasn't the coach that i needed
for that point in my career for for me to kick on i needed that hard-nosed guy and he's got that kind
of fba at paramount and see carter's performance yeah killing it killing it time on the field and
maybe your organization just looked at your squad looked at you boys around that 22 to 26
so we just need someone for the hard edge about us and i reckon like like i said like justin's
obviously he's a good coach he's even common super league um i'm just like i think he's
going back to roosters which is good you know yeah welcome welcome
so um like i'm happy for him there and it does like suck you know like um like i said we all like
him as coach and we didn't we didn't know it was kind of coming so that blunt sounded you guys yeah
yeah yeah yeah we um i think that's a good way to do it to be fair well i don't really know how
there's no good way around it really i i just we just kind of came in there's a meeting i was like
we're coming from origin 2. i was 18th man but we stood at caxton and that so we kind of came in
and all the boys just kind of walk around like on eggshells and we're like
that's the four origin boys mo david and um tino just thinking have we done something wrong
yeah there's a meeting and they're like you know so like did we do something caxton i was like
nah like there was nothing like nobody nothing nothing happened and then we go in there and
there's a second meeting with all the players like oh like what's the go what's going on they're like
oh like you'll find out and we're like what's going on and i get in there and i'm just looking
out i'm like justin's not in here like he would be in here yeah yeah he got told then and um
obviously that was like on the thursday
yeah we played on that sunday so it was a bit of like a you know keep it simple week it was kind of
this happening everywhere especially for the staff and that as well they were kind of like
dude this is like he uses his motivation stuff yeah yeah i mean the percentage of teams that
lose coach and win that weekend it's freaking high man like we beat the broncos at suncorp that weekend
yeah um but yeah i guess back to desi i think i guess our team probably needs someone like desi
who probably is not going to give
too much of a about feelings and that sort of stuff he just wants a footy team that
wins yeah i guess there's different types of coaches for different teams that can work better
and you know manage players better and i guess the organization just thought desi will get the
best out of us and really challenge us i guess who's his um support staff that he's got coming
with him um jimmy dimmock coming nah well jimmy dimmock was here oh he was already yeah he's been
here for at least last year or two years um i'm not actually too sure about his career at this point
i mean he's been with us for almost a decade i think so yeah i guess we'll see what happens then
used to give me a
he looks like a bit of trouble
nah he was a good dude
we're there so possibly i haven't really looked into it but i know we're there around fourth to
eighth of october i think that's perfect yeah i think a few of the rooster boys are going to be
around near that time oh you know turps and they're taking yeah yeah he's a good lad he's a
good lad if i get a bit done down in sydney too yeah he's going all right mate i heard he's one
of the best day yeah one of the greats how pound for pound too definitely the greatest um off the
field obviously you're friends with guys like from alfred's apartment who's basically the uniform
of the gold coast uh you said you love being around business you love real estate
brimmo the entrepreneur uh what are you doing off the field that's picking that interest up so much
um i've always i guess been passionate about real estate in terms of property and
where's that come from oh nah just since i've got my first place i just kind of remember i was uh
cutting ryan james here one day as 18 year old he's like i was just renting he's like oh you
this i said nah because why don't you buy a place i was like i don't have enough i don't have money
otherwise i would and then he put me onto eddie harrison he's like a a broker he does like heaps
of us titans boys and that he's just a legend got me into this i think it was 520 this townhouse
back in 2018 2019 and then from there i've just just just like loved it just um being obsessed
with looking at realestate.com i know people who like don't really like doing that and i'll go there
even when i'm like not in a situation or current situation to be able to buy but just go to
auctions i love it like i work i go to inspections no and i'm not going to buy this joint oh really
i'm like i just want to see it and yes i went to auction the other morning in um in palmy just to
kind of see the area do you ever feel like just throwing up a random one early early
oh um but yeah obviously alfred's um all good lads
ed super smart super switched on us i feel like he's um he gets on trends i reckon pretty early
just um he nailed the hat yeah and now like that's that's pretty iconic yeah yeah so like well
branded bro yeah i mean the amount of times you see these going around like you know it's i guess
big when you actually see it often you know gold coast isn't that small so like no he's good um
and then yeah chatting before about just business i'm just interested in making money i'm just
having a good life so i want to buy cool things and do cool stuff so
i'm already thinking i'm obviously happy with um my current contract but um you know i thought
you get more of a return on some businesses and you do property at the moment especially
with the rates and that interest rate so if i could be making an extra x amount per month
throw it my way throw it exactly i just i know it's easier said than done but i'm pretty keen to
you know be doing some stuff that i don't i used to be a carpenter i did my carpentry apprenticeship
my back's way too cooked for that so yeah that's that's actually really cool like we're talking
about a little bit before where like players are more open more vulnerable than they've ever been
before and my personal opinion i think that's a great thing and then now they're starting to move
towards like business places and like when i was in football like these type of conversations would
never be yeah you know you couldn't you just get caught up in the business and you know you're
like i was into photography and books and video like everyone does that now which is like kind of
normal but like i used to get back then yeah like and it's not even that long ago bro like i used to
get laughed at then kp does it and all of a sudden it's cool anything kp does is cool yeah but he's
got he's got that sort of wealth factor about him but it's cool to see yeah it's like i said i've
been um i interviewed about it or not interviewed i called the owner of this limousine business
it was um i said it was making pretty good money
profit a year i was singing brimos limos like it's already catchy
and i have nothing i'm not even a car dude you know like i don't i can change a tire that's it
but like i just thought oh if i can have a business that's i'm not just paying off but i'm
making money and then when i finish i've got a couple of those and i want to be doing something
at the titans um you know i want to be out of you know go to the beach in the morning still and
not kind of governed by a job yeah similar to this yourself
yeah i'm just getting new york next week um bro last question where do you want your legacy to be
and who do you want to be um tough to answer is that as a footy no i guess i feel like i'm a pretty
uh cruisy i just feel like i'm a pretty normal dude in terms of people always ask like my
brother's like a tradie and they'll be like oh like does he does he like eat maccas or eat
chocolate and i'm like fuck bro if you see me i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be like
i mean like my diet it's better but like i just enjoy playing footy like footy is not my life at
all like when i train i train hard and when i play i try to play my best and obviously i care but
my i feel like i've got a balance of my life outside footy is just as if not more important
in terms of family friends hanging out which i feel like is important anyway for most people
with footy like i said i love the thought of doing business and i love the thought of doing
business and having a cafe or something and showing face there my um my girlfriend works in a
um news agency i used to work in a news agency and i used to go in there on my days off and
serve people a lot of tickets and scratch cards yeah just to be like good morning nah that was
bad luck but i just i like talking shit to people and go talk about that you know chatting to some
seven-year-old about his life about not i'm interested in his life but just like listen
to his john dory's about whatever he did that day and i'm just kind of yeah yeah mad and then
new people come in good morning like
i don't know just kind of go with the flow but in terms of legacy it's pretty hard i feel like
i guess just a good dude you know yeah cool dude that people like to
party with and play footy with all right football what do you want to be um obviously the premiership
for the debut premiership is i want i want a photo i want a photo at the pad with the
the premiership trophy like fisher performing literally i just want because i know how good
it's going to be for the gold coast you know it's a
it's not such a sport city it's you know it's got influencers and that's like compared to
brissy you know they got banners of them all through brisbane city of afl bronx players
uh which is sick and we haven't earned that yet which is which i understand i just i just can't
wait for the days where we're we're really humming and people want to sign with us now
yeah you know and i guess i want to be known as you know a key part of the first first um titans
experienced but i thought it was us getting goose bumps it'd be a it'd be a it'd be a doco
series man it'd be sick just um no i i see um fox league or this or this page screenshot at
the start i screenshot everything titan's or you know in other words like even when me
and toby had uh number 13th ranked the spot um halfback combination or whatever halves
combinations screenshot i mean it didn't end up well anyway but like in case we do you know i
just think like oh that's ammo like yeah no one ever gives us a chance and then
i do like kind of hearing that sort of stuff so we are determined to turn things around there at
the gold coast so i'm looking forward to working with des you know we got a lot of boys re-signing
fullback center half whatever it is we'll make it work all right love that bro i just want to
say thank you for your time um wish you health happiness and success my guy thanks brother
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