Danny Green is a legend of Australian sport.
He's the only Australian boxer to win four world titles
across three different weight divisions,
having previously represented his country at Commonwealth
and Olympic Games level as an amateur.
Danny is highly respected in the community for his philanthropy
and passion for supporting people from all ages and walks of life.
Danny Green has dedicated himself and self-funded his anti-violence movement,
the Cowards Punch Campaign,
aimed at preventing senseless and unnecessary attacks on helpless victims.
Danny's efforts has resulted in a change in the vernacular
from what was previously labelled a king hit or a one-punch attack,
seemingly glorifying the sickening acts
to now the term used everywhere as Cowards Punch,
a legacy that may well outweigh Danny Green's extraordinary achievements
in the boxing room.
Danny, it's always good to see you.
Thanks for joining me.
Thanks for having me, Luke.
It's been a long time, mate.
It has been too long, Danny.
I look at the screen and I see a good-looking young surfer from Perth.
How did you go on and become an international boxing star?
Well, I've gone the full circle because I'm surfing more than I've ever surfed
So I don't know, mate.
I guess I could ask you the same question.
You kick it back doing what you're doing.
You don't look a day over 35, mate.
So you've kept in great nick in your career.
I guess you might agree to help me out here with this question that we'll answer.
But I don't really – when I was doing it and I was younger and I was really
pushing and striving, I didn't really think I was going to be a champion
and I didn't really think I was going to achieve what I did.
I wanted to and I dreamt of it, but I didn't.
I wasn't so self-assured.
Like with someone like yourself, were you always like,
I'm going to be an AFL superstar?
Was that what you thought when you were young or you just pushed towards it?
It's a good reflection, Danny, isn't it?
Because I think as a kid, I could picture myself, that's me and what I want to be.
But a lot of times –
On the way, you always got injured.
Am I good enough?
Am I going to be able to compete at this level?
So I think the doubt is always there.
And you're right.
You're probably so focused on trying to do it, you don't overthink about getting
to the end point.
But I suppose I'm asking the question, Danny, because I look around the world
of boxing and this may be a generalization that's wrong.
And I think most kids come potentially from broken families or the hardest
The Mike Tyson story where dysfunctional kids,
dysfunctional family.
And I look at Danny Green, I think, you know, from a really solid family
and there are a lot of other choices to go on to be one of the –
an internationally regarded boxer.
Is that, you know, maybe more surprising?
Probably – I don't know, mate.
No, because I started – my old man got me into karate.
He was a farmer from back in the day.
My old man was very old school and he was a farmer on the wheat belt,
And then him and my mother ran into drought three years in a row.
So my sisters and them came to the city, but my brother was just born.
A couple of years later, then Dad started working at Huntley Jacks
and 38 years later retired.
So Dad was, you know, very working class and worked his butt off
and instilled some great values in us kids.
And we were very, very blessed, as you said, Luke,
to have a very tight family unit.
Yeah, we had ups and downs.
Like all families do, you know, you have your ups and downs.
But generally speaking, we were very blessed to have a mother
and a father that were both completely invested in all our lives.
And then our father passed in 18.
But Mum's still with us.
And she's still kicking and she's still invested in our lives.
And we're very fortunate.
And then myself and my wife were invested heavily in our children's lives.
So it's flowed on to that.
But for me, boxing, Dad got me into fighting.
He loved fighting.
My old man was old school.
He was a bit of a knockabout, the old boy.
And he loved the game.
He didn't really want me to fight.
He got me into karate early so I could, you know, protect myself.
He wanted me to be able to and my brother to be able to look after ourselves.
It just went from there.
I fell in love with it.
And then when Dad took me down to Nookaburra Hotel,
It used to be an iconic hotel here in Perth.
Pretty rough old joint.
That was Dad's local down the road.
And we were down there.
I was there 13 years old, 12 years old,
watching Jeff Fennec win his first world title against Shingaki in 1985.
I was in my PJs, propped up on the bar,
looking around with these blokes going mad,
And look at the TV going,
I think I want to do that.
Extraordinary, isn't it?
Your dad was one of 11, as you said,
from the weak belt in country WA
and came down and, you know,
ran the Hungry Jack store.
You said you got into mixed martial arts as a kid.
It was about maybe learning to protect yourself.
Do you look now and think perhaps if that era was brought forward
that you might have been in the UFC
or would that have been a path you might have taken?
It was a bit early for UFC.
So I started boxing,
my first amateur fight in 1992
and I had a couple of kickboxing fights before that
and I got my black belt in karate when I was 17.
All I did was hold my pants up, look.
You know, but I was around that for a long time.
I was competing in contact,
full contact tournaments from the age of 15
so I really loved it
but I actually always wanted to box
because my father loved it.
I used to watch Wildwood Sports on Sunday mornings.
You know, Kenny Sutcliffe would bring us all the highlights
from Roberto Duran and Sugar Ray Leonard
and my favourite Thomas the Hitman Hearns
and marvellous Marvin Haglis.
I'd watch those guys on TV going,
fuck, I want to do that.
But I didn't realise I gravitated towards it
and then my father's,
a guy that my father worked with,
the Hungry Jacks,
was a little Burmese guy
that emigrated from Burma with his family
and his brothers.
And he was in line at Hungry Jacks one day
and the old man saw him and said,
come on in, mate.
You look like a hard worker.
And they had a chat.
Dad gave him a go
and they became very, very close, mate.
So close that, you know,
he was holding my father's hand
when he took his last breath as we were
so he was really close with us.
And he was my very first boxing coach,
little Burmese guy.
He looks like Mr. Miyagi.
My name's Daniel.
He used to call me Daniel's son.
He'd never seen the bloody movie Karate Kid.
But it was magic, mate.
And yeah, from when I met Pat,
I used to go watch Pat's son,
box amateur when we were younger as well.
Dad would take us to the fights.
I've always gravitated
and wanted to be a boxer.
And then since I had my very first
training session with Pat,
I was completely hooked.
Danny, it's a great,
I didn't know that part of your story.
It's the best of multicultural Australia,
Burmese friends as parents goes on
to train Danny Green,
a four-time world champion
I look at your history, Danny,
as I said in the intro,
you've done things others
have never been able to achieve
I think I even gain more respect for you.
And I go to that night
that all of us will remember,
17th of May, 2006,
your first fight against Anthony Mundine.
Record still for pay-per-view event
in Australian sport.
And it's a fight that you ended up losing.
But I think your words immediately,
and I can only imagine
what that would have been like,
and every pub in Australia is full
and you're either in the Mundine camp
or the Danny Green camp.
I was beaten by a better man
How did you find that integrity
after such a disappointing moment
right after it happened?
I guess if I had my time back
in many of my interviews,
I would have said different things.
You know, hindsight's a wonderful thing, Luke,
as we all can appreciate.
But I wouldn't have changed
what I said that night.
I was beaten fair and square
on the night by Mundine.
There's no point talking about
some of the immense hardships
physically and emotionally
that I went through
leading up to that fight.
There's no point worrying about that
because it doesn't matter.
We were both in there
trying to knock each other out
and he won on points
and he fought a great fight.
And I now know the training camp
and spoken with his father
and I've known Tony for a long time.
He's a great man.
we've broken bread
it was never a hatred
or never a particular dislike.
I'm a better fighter.
He thought he's a better fighter
and it went on for a long time
it's still going on
because if I die tomorrow,
I'm a better fighter than Choc
and he'll probably be at my funeral
that he's a better fighter than me
even though I'm fucking dead.
it's a genuine rivalry
that will go to where it's gone
and I think that's what made it work
it was never really personal much
I think the media,
the media really helps mould
and they really love to go down
and me being the Catholic white fella
where I'm an atheist
I had nothing to do with religion.
It doesn't mean really much to me
and it was kind of skewed that way
and Choc ran with it
because he knows what's good for sales.
it was what it was.
I'm severely concussed,
I just wanted to pay respects
and that's how I was raised,
look the guy in the eye,
cop it on the chin,
and go back next time
I don't think it was something
that I tried to do.
It was just how I've been raised
by my old man and my mum
and that's how we are
and that's how you are.
It's how a majority of people
I'd like to think are.
but you've still got to do it
and I think that,
I remember watching the screen
and I think there's nothing
at the end of a fight
because it's the ultimate
I feel great empathy
there's 17 teammates
to share that with.
in the square circle,
you've got only yourself
that the amount of weight
leading into that,
left you dehydrated
and there were plenty
of reasons for you
I wasn't at my best
but it takes integrity
just to cop the values
just how you're raised
and how you raise your kids?
I'd like to think
behave in the same manner,
And the Anthony Mundine rivalry,
I'll ask you again,
it captivated all of us,
Remember that night,
it was such a big night
that long-running feud
so it's great to hear
there's that respect
and even caught up
so the two of you,
you're broken bread
and happy to share a beer?
both of us don't drink
I feel like I went
and that's something
and respect about him too,
he's never drunk,
never touched drugs
very clean living bloke
there's a lot to admire
that people from today's
take something away
and I gave up the grog
nearly five years ago
so we'll have a cup of tea
we've seen each other
on a few occasions,
professional fight,
very respectful of his father
because I grew up
watching TV ringside,
my old man had me
watching TV ringside
so that Tony Mundine
and Hector Thompson
and Kahuma Hunga fights,
they're legendary fights
and Sharky Raymond
and all those boys
with a great respect
and then obviously,
to be in such a massive fight,
it was pretty bizarre,
I remember driving
and we were doing it
so we didn't really know
and I don't think anyone knew
how big the pay-per-view
proved how good they are,
they ran out of people,
the phone line shut down,
they couldn't cover
they did it numerous times
when we had pay-per-views
and they should have
and should have been
equipped way better
but the first one,
they just didn't realise
of how many people
wanted to see the fight,
I don't think that record
has ever been broken,
they can talk about it
they can throw numbers around,
it ain't going to get touched
and the second one
and the third one,
the third highest
and Mundine's remap,
Choc and I have got,
he's got two of them,
so I've got one up
in the end of the Choc,
I've got three pay-per-views
it was pretty bizarre,
driving down Cleveland Street
which is an artery
in Newtown to the city
to go to Aussie Stadium,
that had barriers
and traffic cones
onto the footpath
and there was all these
high-vis security guys
and all these pubs
were driving down
because it's quite a busy
with a fair few pubs
and it was packed
and that's when I went
looking at these people
on the way to the venue,
this is a big deal,
and as it turns out
it went gangbusters
the pay-per-views
it was a great run
very, very appreciative
each other's careers
I love hearing you
it's a great end point
after a rivalry like that
the two of you are
and I sometimes think
the ultimate alpha male
to me is the combat sport,
and Anthony Munday
as you put it all
and go in the ring
are such self-aware
that you can give up
I don't need to do that
that that leadership
transfers into other
areas of your life,
it's a great example,
is that how you felt
you get to know yourself
when you're a fighter?
I love to beer mate,
no one loves to beer
and I just did beer,
all I did was drink beer,
didn't drink spirits,
occasionally I'd drink spirits
when I had way too many beers
but being a hyperactive bloke
I was the first to start
and I didn't want
the party to finish,
and I had to give
and my father gave up
drinking around the same age,
I'm telling my son,
I don't want my son
or my daughter to drink
and my daughter's been,
dabbled in a little bit
she's not touched drugs
and she's never going to
and alcohol's not really
a part of her life whatsoever,
she's 22 very soon
and my boy's only 16
to doing something
particularly as a young bloke,
drugs it goes that same
but alcohol I think
is more damaging,
that'll ruin whatever
aspirations you have
of making anything
particularly at a young age
and I couldn't tell him,
I don't want you drinking
if I'm still drinking
so I had to give it away.
which is great leadership
go to New Year's Eve 2012
by the name of Daniel Christie
was cowardly attacking
he was minding his own
business that night
and he lost his life,
it changed your life
I don't really know
I think there's a,
there's a necessity,
but I think in violence
I think we could use
young blokes being,
I'm completely opposed
and the way to be
a lot of testosterone,
it's a natural hormone,
we all know what it is.
Young women don't have
anywhere near as much,
they have a tiny bit
but they have mostly estrogen
which is a different
and have testosterone
raging through their body
and keep it inside
and you can't do this,
you can't do that,
you're not allowed to tackle
on the footy field anymore,
you can't play British Bulldog
you can't bump and wrestle
and grind with your mates,
it's too violent,
it's too aggressive.
It's going to come out
in different areas
when they're older
in different scenarios
which is no good.
not need to be violent
but they need to be,
they need to release
and that aggression
needs to be channeled
because every boy has it
and I think it needs
the way we're looking
at raising our young boys
it's a great point Danny,
I'll jump in on that
coming back to the
Cowards Punch campaign
because it feels like
the needle has moved
it's so confusing
for our young boys
and you listen to
who's an academic
and really articulate
you've got to let,
we want young boys
to be strong young men
in a regulated environment
competitive sport
and combat sports
are a great avenue
aren't they Danny?
a way as you said
to control emotions
and have the discipline
like Danny Green's had
and over correct that
we're trying to turn boys
that they never are
and never should be
the point you're making
is that we've pushed
because that leads to
then these cowardly attacks
like there's nothing
brave about someone
cowardly punching someone
a stand against that
rather than courage
and we'll touch on that
going back to your point
it's become absurd
and everyone gets
a participation trophy
or better yourself
because you're going
and everyone wins
I think that's a shit go
and that's teaching people
and to be extraordinary
is almost looked at
upon as a bad thing now
I can't get my head
and how does that
through their mental health
through their mental strength
it doesn't matter
I don't have to try
because it's not really
we're all the same
but we're not all the same
and some people win
some people do things
better than others
that they're better
and I think we need
to really quickly
change the needle
back to where it was
because a good friend
a very close friend
worked in juvenile
detention over here
in Bankshire Hill
which is the prison
for young kids over here
they get 10 year olds
they get 14 year olds
that are murderers
rapists and murderers
from a very young age
violent offenders
a horrendous upbringing
they are that way
they're not born that way
the majority aren't
he was a very strict
and he used sport
these young blokes
harness their energy
into the right way
working with young men
that are violent offenders
they actually looked
and sternly tell them
no that's not right
I'm not politically correct
how I raise my kids
no one's going to tell me
how to raise my own offspring
are going to have
self-respect themselves
that means if they
respect themselves
they're going to respect
that's why I love
a four time world
who's made a living
this is something
that I'm not going
than you and your
colleagues in your sport
so when you take a stand
the needle on that
how we speak about it
that must make you
and they've stopped
asking it so much
oh what's a boxer
not to be violent for
that's what he did
I've been you know
around that violence
and it's you know
it can be unpleasant
but it is what it is
the very first question
to make a difference
would look up to me
hopefully take a bit
of a get in the air
and what I'm going
I'm trying to say
and trying to show them
and trying to tell them
that no one respects
anti-social cowardice
no one respects it
no one condones it
that's a top line fighter
or an ordinary fighter
respect that type
of putrid cowardice
I don't have a problem
that's the way it goes
that's the way it used to be
I mean we need to change it
and there's no one
people are going to
with me saying that
because everyone's
so politically correct
and afraid to say
things these days
it gives me the shits
and get their differences
this complete cowardness
looking for trouble
without them even
without even knowing
I can't get my head
so I want to make
I want to get them
particularly young blokes
that no one respects
putrid cowardness
and you're going to
be branded a coward
that's why I chose
it to coward punch
it was kind of awkward
people were going
but it's resonated
the slip-slop-slap
the drink-driving
have had billions
of government funds
four, three, four,
people unfortunately
and the coward punch
from the Victorian
Institute of Forensic
through Professor
judges and magistrates
referencing the term
so if the vernacular
in less than 10 years
it's been a magic
it's a great legacy
and credit for you
the plain language
better than anyone else
I think you couldn't
almost 13 years ago
in the first round
his form after it
back on that one?
bottle of whiskey
I still pinch myself
out in the first round
that you just went
and walked on the moon
that shit doesn't happen
the same category
standards and levels
that on that night
I can hurt anyone
two years consecutive
the bible of boxing
voted me the best
a chance to beat him
going to beat him
and I had to jump
we had an amazing
and like yourself
and that training
that I can remember
opportunity when it
basically clubbed
particularly in the
stories of people
afterwards because
boxer or whatever
you've had success
everything herself
contributing factor
I think my old man
what would you do
those highs forever
I love going fast
I love being scared
I was able to do that
for that opportunity
it can't last forever
I hope you're enjoying it
all these fighters
I want to give you
while you're doing it
you're in the prime
I'm ready to take
from what I've seen
that Sydney to Hobart
for our chat today
I think you might have
said something like
for Sydney to Hobart
I genuinely thought
I was going to die
that story with me
I'm really pissed
this maiden voyage
prior to the race
organised a magic crew
a group of people
that had some profiles
we went on the boat
so we organised that
the Humpty Dumpty
around the country
and I'm terrified
don't want to do it
I was shitting myself
and the first night
I'd never been on the boat
because I was fighting
so I'd not done any training
I'd actually stepped
was on Boxing Day morning
when the boat left
and I'd never been
on the thing before
five minute run down
we were just there
we were just pulling
lugging stuff up and down
I was the first to vomit
I was the very first one
and after I didn't spew
I was pretty happy
the very first night
I remember we had to go
in the front of the boat
and it was just like
and you're just getting
and I had to crawl
up the front of the boat
and pull this sail
that had come unhitched down
the front of the boat
with these big swells
that had come back up
over the edge of the boat
and the bow of the boat
and I was crawling
and I didn't know
that I had to actually
that could latch on
the side of the boat
so if I did go over
you'd be clipped on
I didn't even clip on
I wasn't used to it
like I don't know
but just like a cat
just trying to crawl
and I was thinking
excuse my language
on the edge of the boat
to sit in the boat
when it's on the edge
playing you right
breathing to myself
in this lightning
and just breathing
you're not going to die
you're going to be okay
you're not going to die
I had so much fun
I went back in 2014
you actually went back
after that experience
backgrounds around
but outside of it
to lead someone else
and I really like
following many rules
I'm not a conformist
when it comes to that
by the right people
I believe everyone
deserves a second chance
and I always have
my kids are the same
we always bat for the
we always look out
always go looking
to help someone else
because I've found
that I live in Australia
doctor if I need to
I can go get groceries
to complain about
and have the respect
and I was looking
my wife sent to me
what's true success
and I was interviewing
this very successful
what's success to you
well success to me
that's what success
respect of our kids
means being a leader
our kids are very
every old parents
through ups and downs
that's brilliantly
out so authentically
in everything you say
it's funny you say
moved out of home
so I'm coming home
I'm bringing a young
mate he's playing
and a new recruit
and my wife and I
looked at each other
it's sort of as good
they love your home
they're comfortable
bringing their mates
in a brilliant way
quite like you just did
and you just described
an impact positively
everywhere you go
the values of the family
to always look out
for another person
and help other people
is that something
I don't think about it
I just can't help it
bloke on the side
that needs a hand
that's just how we are
or whatever it may be
I can't walk past
I find it very tough
are exactly the same
with a lot of empathy
I almost sometimes
I almost feel guilty
have felt that way
in my personality
we have to look out
for everyone else
what that is mate
but it's important
oh it makes you feel better
but it's something
that I can't help
it just is what it is
It's pretty special
I love hearing you
a four time world champion
have got a vision
you said in the first answer
ever going to happen
because I loved it
someone that sort of
and you really go about
areas of your life
you've had success
how do you go about
achieve something
I guess I worked out
if I train really
I'm going to get better
then I'm going to
surpass what he's doing
a good work ethic
a great work ethic
he passed that on to me
my mates and family
he's a space cadet
obviously I've got
doing something right
every now and then
I've got something
brewing I want to
put some flights together
I kind of buckle up
and trying to achieve
as good as possible
have not worked as well
that haven't worked
I've failed at things
and like we all do
that's part of life
and you learn from that
it's such a wanky
saying I learned it
it's a good learning curve
you learn from your mistakes
and if you don't learn
from your mistakes
which I have been
not learning from
so I try and tell my kids
and try and educate my kids
as we all do as parents
don't make the same mistakes
and that's why I'm telling you
someone said to me
that you don't learn from
you summed that up
are you curious Danny
who have success like you
the way you describe yourself
yeah I would mate
like I was up last night
and I don't want him to fight
some magical things
and he's grown up
my wife loves boxing
it's been a boxing household
and will be a boxing household
and he wants to fight
mate I don't want you to fight
he's a late maturer
until I was 23 years old
although he's almost 16
but he's got a lot of talent
he's got a lot of ability
and he loves to work
and I'm pushing him
in the hope that he goes
and he keeps coming back
he really wants to do this
the right things to do
but it's dangerous
it's not great for your health
I'd rather him do something different
but if he wants to do it
and I said to him
mate I'm not going to stand in your way
you want to fight for the wrong
if you think you'd be famous
and all this kind of shit
I'll stand in your way
but if you want to
if you want to fight
because you want to be fit
and you want to be victorious
against another person
in a competitive nature
then I'll help you mate
he's doing that at the moment
and he's loving it
well I loved it Danny
because I was thinking
my own eldest son
he's on the Bulldogs
probably similar to you
he's in a lot of ways
to do a lot of other things
but you can't manufacture passion
is what I always say
but for the first time in my life
that's in a footy field
that must be a hard thing
where you try and knock someone out
that's the aim of the game
is that you get in the ring
and you hope to knock your opponent out
that's not going to be easy watching is it
I did it the other night
and he was sparring
I was agitated all night
I was in a pretty prickly mood all night
oh look I'm sorry
because I don't like seeing you get hit mate
I don't want to see you get hit
so don't show me how tough you are
I said I love the fact
you want to show me how tough you are
I love the bravado
but show me how good you are
I prefer to see how good you are
than how tough you are
I know you're tough
I don't want to see that shit
I want to see you
I want to see how good you are
I want to see how skillful you are
hitting and not getting hit
is the art of boxing
I want to raise him to be a boxer
but he's going to have to be a brawler
at certain stages
it's like you mate
I used to get nervous
when my boy was on the footy field
8, 9, 10, 11 years old
so I couldn't imagine
how nerve wracking it would be
seeing him against your boy
if you were watching your boy
and you watch your boy
big, strong, explosive, powerful men
yeah it's not easy
every parental instinct
yeah and you can't
I suppose as you said Dave
you stand in his way
being the parent you want to be
if he's got a passion for it
be on the journey
will you outsource that
will you let someone else
and that's what it was
so last night I was up
exercises that I've done
that I've learned off
my strength and conditioning team
that I've had over two different
strength and conditioning teams
all the exercises
and then my mom was going
right well I can do this
and I can put all of them
what exercise works
and then write a whole list
and a whole program
it's going to take me
but I've started the process
hopefully I'll get it done
but yeah I'm curious
because then I started
looking at googling things
and going well Faraday
just so I can try
you'll understand this Luke
we have our blow ups
I'm not your father
and you will not talk
they get pretty heated
I said would you talk
I said would you behave
and would you speak
I said well the same
I'm your coach in here
I'm not your father
and I'll talk to you
I won't talk to you
and that's the way
so it's a different dynamic
and we're working
our way through it
there's been some
great success stories
with fathers and sons
some horrid stories as well
but it's early days
and I'm really enjoying it
but the main thing is
so much quality time together
and for me as a father
the skill of fighting
and be able to protect
and defend himself
because I said to him
when they were very early
in this household
is non-negotiable
you're going to be
you're going to work
you're going to train
you're going to build
and that's going to build
this to be strong
and that's non-negotiable
and whatever you want
she was a very successful
she was a three-time
open water champion
watching your kids
particularly when you see
where they could take
and you could have
we know everything
from the sidelines
yeah you don't make
the 10th row back
as I've found out
let me ask you this
who's been the greatest
leader in your life?
my father Malcolm
he was my footy coach
when we were young
from the age of 9
we won three premierships
and only junior footy
I was the smallest guy
the only place she could
hide me was on the
every now and then
we played against
Daniel Sirikowski
and Daniel Souther
I think played in the team
we played against
in the grand final
really good footballers
not one person played
played a few games
but we were a fantastic unit
this will make you smile
he loved his footy
he was a good football
he loved coaching
and he was a really
he knew how to get
the best out of young blokes
pick up and drop off
boys who couldn't
make it to training
wasn't present in their life
and they all keep in touch
with me to this day
saying your old man
was just so good to me
you don't realise
how much of an impact
he had on my young life
and so that makes me
to our grand final
the 17th grand final
we played at Claremont Oval
and they were already
to meet at our home ground
we all go in our gear
and warm up there before
we all get in a bus
and we drive to the venue
when the bus got there
it got there like
five minutes before
we ran straight off the bus
and we kicked the first goal
and hit the ground running
let's rattle them
let's rattle them
no one knew where we were
they thought we'd gone
to the other ground
because there was not
one person from our team
and there was five
one of my favourite
and was doing stuff
we hadn't seen before
instead of the end of season trip
the last pygmy tribe
wherever they are in the world
and he was an adventure
and a tough guy too
you want on your team
he wanted to stand
alongside Danny Southern
but a brilliant guy
and he's back in Perth
in the world we are Danny
in this leadership space
have you ever thought about
someone you'd like
to collaborate with
from the world of boxing
someone you thought
another area of your life
that a name springs out
that's someone I'd love
to spend some time with
there's a lot of really good people
doing some really good things
that would have a massive
impact on my life
yeah there's so many people
I couldn't name them
off the top of my head
there's just so many people
and I don't rate success
loaded or winning
as being a good bloke
and having good people
that's what I rate as success
so there's so many people
out there like that
you're in a massive industry
so many good people
I guess one bloke
and it's probably
it's not going to happen
just spend 20 minutes
he's actually like
the Marvel movies
and the Transformers
he's like a real life
he's actually the real deal
are obsessed with that
but that's the one
about David Goggins
there's only very few
people could ever do
pushes the whole thing
you just couldn't
penetrate his mind
and to be that strong
and to have that much
and to be so bold
like he can give up now
with what he's done
and everyone would go
you're the messiah
so he's a true leader
been inspired by you
and the person you are
and even listening today
going back to the values
and how grateful you are
and continually doing
outstanding things
you changing the whole
the violence on the street
but also being able
as you have today
it's important for young boys
that side of themselves
strong conversation
it's always been inspiring
and thanks for taking
mate I really appreciate it
it's been a long time mate
and you've always been
a great supporter of mine
you're the real deal mate
you're the genuine
up and down bloke
and thanks very much
thanks for the support
I really appreciate it too mate