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What's up you guys? I'm Rachel Demita and welcome to the Courtside Club.

I'm so excited because today Ian Carmel is joining me.

Comedian, co-head lead writer.

Co-head writer.

Co-head writer.

Yeah, yeah.

The Late Late Show with James Corden.

Thank you for joining me today.

It's such a pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me.

Not only are you known for your work in television.

Right.

But you're known for being an avid sports fan.

Avid sports fan, my philanthropy, my equestrian career, two gold medals.

All the things.

All the things I do, yeah.

I was most intrigued by...

By your NBA fandom.

Yes.

And most specifically, your Portland Trailblazers fandom.

Is there any other kind? Not this season.

Not this season.

I think if you like basketball, you like the Portland Trailblazers.

I was going to say, how are you feeling about this season?

I feel amazing. I feel like I have made the decision this season.

Because when you get really into basketball, I think how we're into basketball,

you start to like, you're like, well, if they're winning all these close games,

statistically, that's going to regress towards...

That's the mean at some point.

And they're going to lose some close games, too.

They can't win all the close games.

I'm completely unreasonable about the team.

But you're from Portland.

I'm from Portland, Oregon.

So it makes sense.

Yes.

I'm from Portland.

We don't have a lot of other options.

Although the Portland Thorns, the women's soccer team, just won the NWSL championship.

Okay.

And we have the Timbers as well, of course.

Right.

But when I was growing up, it was just the Trailblazers.

That's pretty much all we had.

Who is your favorite Trailblazer of all time?

It's probably Damian Lillard now.

But if I had to go non-Damian Lillard division, it's a tie between Rasheed Wallace and Jerome

Kersey.

Because I think in each of us, there's a Rasheed Wallace and a Jerome Kersey.

A Rasheed Wallace, the hothead, your head, your animal instinct, you know what I mean?

The part of you that wants to act out of emotion.

And then there's the Jerome Kersey, just a lovely man with very soft hands.

And a beautiful jump shot.

Don't hate me for this, but I only remember Rasheed from being in Detroit.

I don't recall that era of Rasheed Wallace, actually.

Really?

He was on the Pistons?

Yeah.

With Ben Wallace, Rip Hamilton, Chauncey Billups.

None of that is familiar to me.

That was a fun team.

I think that might have been like a 2K simulation, something that happened like that.

You like blacked that memory out of your brain.

I remember Rasheed Wallace, he was traded to the Atlanta Hawks and then he retired.

I think it was what happened.

Okay.

No.

A lot of people ... I know he won the championships with ...

Wait, I can't tell if you're pulling my leg right now or if you really don't remember.

I'm pulling your leg.

I'm pulling your leg.

Okay, so you do remember.

Absolutely.

Okay, I'm just making sure.

I'm like, wait a second.

I'm choosing to delete it from my memory.

No, I know.

He won his championship with the Pistons.

I understand that, but I think Portland Trailblazer fans ... There was a weird gulf because if

you were the media in Portland at the time, it was like the Jailblazer era.

They hated Rasheed.

They thought him getting technical fouls was immature and everything.

Yeah.

Now, but if you were younger when all that was happening, like what I was and my friends

were, I think you just loved it because it was cool.

Yeah.

He was like a rebel like that and he was also amazing at basketball and those teams were

good.

Yeah.

If it weren't for Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant, we would have been in the finals in

2001 and then we probably would have won the championship that year.

I would have kind of shut up.

Would have could have shut up, which is the story of being a Portland Trailblazers fan.

Would have could have should have drafted Michael Jordan, Kevin Durant, Chris Paul,

any number of people rather than Martell Webster.

Although Martell Webster, not as good as Chris Paul.

I was going to say.

A little bit different, no shade, but I'm a Cleveland sports fan, so I understand to

a certain extent.

Yes.

Some things don't always go our way.

You could have understood.

Yeah.

You could have understood.

few years ago yeah when when LeBron came back yeah yeah but he had to leave first he did and

crush all of us first you know right he had to break your heart to truly win it back right he's

kind of like a rom-com basketball player in that way isn't it like you had to have the second act

where LeBron leaves breaks everybody's heart maybe there's like a sad Elliot Smith song playing

during this part of the movie you never miss a good thing till it leaves right till it leaves

and then he comes running back in the airport Kevin Love and Kyrie standing there it's raining

they hug they spin around the camera goes around this beautiful music playing they kiss or not

depending on how you picture this in your head and then and then you win a championship finally

because for Cleveland it was three teams no championships since like the 60s right something

like that yeah rough it was a long time it's a long time but it felt good yeah and Cleveland's

good this year too oh my god so I'm really excited about this team you have to be over the moon right

now it's a good team how who's your favorite part of this team right right now I don't know

honestly I just love the fact it's a bunch of young guys yeah and it's not one of these super

teams that is like a forced mix of all of these good players of course we have a superstar in

Donovan Mitchell but it's more so like the the GM the the coach there are putting these guys

together and it's a it's a good mix and it works it's a good chemistry it's an organic farm the

table right Cleveland Cavaliers team and they showed a little bit of what they were capable

of last season you know

injuries and whatnot but you know you have the young guys you have um even like Mobley and um

Darius Darius Garland yes Garland and we have obviously Donovan Mitchell and Kevin Love is

still there Kevin Love is still there he's just kind of that Oregon's own Kevin Love by the way

okay Lake Oswego grew up not far from where I grew up Oregon actually surprisingly a lot of

NBA players from Oregon you have Kevin Love there's a also a lot of great basketball players

Ohio you got LeBron James Steph Curry Steph Curry too and Rachel Demita and Rachel Demita the big

three I mean the big three that's the big three that's all you need to win a championship that's

all you need um speaking of championships teams yes okay when I was prepping for this interview

yeah I came across something so interesting okay that I thought was amazing it was you

dancing at halftime oh no

but here's the thing I'm not going to lie to you I'm not going to lie to you I'm not going to lie to you

it's a kicker I was like why does this look so familiar yeah I was at that game you were at that

game I was at that game oh my god so for our courtside listeners can you break it down yes

what went on during that halftime performance I would so it was for this tv show game on which

was like a CBS like sports game show it was me Gronk uh Venus Williams uh and James Corden just

four of the greatest athletes of all time

our challenges was to learn from from the Laker girls how to do like a a halftime Laker girls dance

so Venus picked it up really quick I mean she's oh she was great she's so sharp she's she's brilliant

she's so smart so athletic Gronk and I worked with a dance instructor for four hours behind

the scenes trying to like nail all these dance moves was it day of it was that it was the day

of okay she came to the studio and then we were like oh my god I'm gonna do this I'm gonna do this

and we went to at the time Staples Center uh and up until the very last second we were working on

these dance moves James Corden walks in because he's a Broadway guy learned the entire thing in

like 10 minutes and then was having like a Perrier in the corner it was one of the most humiliating

things in my life and then I kept asking the producers over I'm so glad I get to set the

record straight over and over again I was like is there any way I cannot wear Laker gear is there

any way I can have like a blazer shirt underneath this where I pull off the Laker shirt and at the

end you can't do it you absolutely can't do it at no point can you do it so I do want people to know

I had a blazers t-shirt on underneath underneath the Laker gear closer to my heart okay not for

everybody in the crowd to see not for Rachel Demeter to see but close to my heart where the

Blazers live 24 7. was was your career on the line like if you didn't do this dance you would have

been fired they said they would have cut me out of the sketch and the only thing I love more than

the Portland Trailblazers is attention

okay yeah so this is the reason this is really what it comes down to I'm just kidding it was

great I saw it live with my own eyes and the fact that I still remembered that performance yeah three

years later it's it's like it speaks to the quality that's a testament of your dance moves

that's right yeah thank you very much I do want to ask though why do you hate the Lakers so much

I mean there's layers there's there is 2001 when they sent us home when that blade we were up like

16 going into the fourth quarter we we should have won

we should have then gone on to win the finals so you still remember this moment I still remember I

still remember sitting on the floor punching like the the the dark green carpet at my mom's house

just like no no no it was it was traumatic I like Kobe threw an alley-oop to Shaq who hit it and then

ran down the court like pointing it just like I felt the polar opposite of how he felt I was just

like rending inside of it like it was torturous but there was that and then there's just like

Lakers fans

are who just run the gamut in L.A they are they're awful so I'll say it they are online anytime also

anytime you have like a good player on your team the amount of different Blazers players I've had

to see like hastily photoshopped into Lakers gear is like insane anyone whose contract is coming up

and they're even like kind of good I've had to see Sebastian Telfair photoshopped into Lakers gear

you know what I mean it's just like get over yourself not every when LaMarcus Aldridge took

a meeting with them and they blew it

hard that he took a second pity meeting with him like he was someone who went on like because he

didn't want to hurt somebody's feelings like a second date just to let him down easy that was

one of the great moments of my life as a Blazer fandom and they can say that the Lakers live rent

free in my head and that's fine a lot of things live rent free in my head there's a picture of a

lot of space I got a lot of space in there it's huge it's a massive like Soviet era like block of

housing another thing that lives rent free in my head is a picture of a guinea pig wearing a top

hat playing a French horn and that's fine

I like having it there at least you have like some cute things beautiful it's like yeah it's

it's not it's not like this room we're in right now it's not modern it's not clean it's not

minimalist it is like a teenage girls like cork board in my brain that should be a skit that should

be a sketch yeah yeah absolutely give me like a EP credit you know I'll give you writer credit

I'll give you something writer yeah I'll take it yeah go ahead lead writer as I would say lead

writer just church it up as much as you can yeah so I want to get more into your co-head lead

writing yes comedian the facet of your life the three percent of my life that's not dedicated to

the Blazers um this like tiny space yeah in this uh community you have in your brain yeah but first

I'd like to take a halftime break of course I know you're familiar with the show yes we like

to play a little game at halftime and today for you I have NBA trivia okay

but it's a simple true or false so we're not gonna go too crazy I've been this is this is good

warm up I've been trying to get on Jeopardy for the entire time I've been an adult so any time

to do trivia under under pressure I'm ready for it yeah okay so we have some NBA which is perfect

for you we're gonna start off with some Blazers okay here we go okay I think you got this it's

gonna be so embarrassing all right get any of this wrong true or false Damian Lillard only

needs two thousand more points in order to pass Clyde

Drexler as Portland's all-time point leader only needs two thousand more points I think it's less

than that I think he's closer than that I know he's really really close and I think he's gonna

pass it this season so true or false I'm gonna say false because I don't think it's two thousand

exactly I think it's less than two thousand that's correct yes ding ding yeah what is it

out right now so Dame only needs less than a thousand points yeah we'll have to check at the

post with the way at the rate he's been scoring he might it might be right I have it by now he might

go for a thousand next game so I know that you're not probably excited about this one but LeBron

also has a points milestone that he's going for this season as well I don't I much like Lakers

fans I don't consider him a Laker so I I I which is another weird thing about Lakers fans he won

you a championship it doesn't count as much as the other championships but he still did it uh

I consider him a Cleveland Cavalier okay which I think you probably joined me I would love to keep

him as a Lakers fan I would love to keep him as a Lakers fan I would love to keep him as a Lakers fan

as a Cleveland Cavalier but he might be back I know yeah yeah they uh might need to do something

to turn around this season to say the least okay the Portland Trail Blazers longest winning streak

is 16 consecutive games true that's correct yeah the Blazers won 16 consecutive games in the 90-91

season so it's been a while good year 90-91 all right next up the Trail Blazers longest losing

streak is

13 consecutive games oh boy 13. that doesn't seem like us I'm gonna say false false yeah well it's

true no when what year so this was during the 2012-2013 season okay 13 to me doesn't seem that

bad 13 is not so over over like the the whole timeline of the you know going back to 1971 right

70 whenever we were founded yeah yeah that's not so 13 is not so bad no is that who did we get in

the draft that year was it even worth it I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know

is it even worth it 13. I have no idea you know this you get bonus points I don't know I will say

that I didn't think we'd lost that many because the experience of being a Blazers fan is consistent

pretty goodness okay that's like what it we're like consistently pretty good rarely amazing

almost never terrible consistently pretty good consistently middle of the pack that's what I

shoot for in my career as a comedian actually too consistently mediocre yeah yeah yeah all right the

Celtics and the Lakers are the only two teams in the NBA that have never moved and this is from the

start of the NBA okay oh that makes sense all right from the very beginning the very beginning of the

NBA false that is false the Lakers moved the Lakers did move the Lakers moved so do you know what other

team the Celtics is one that has not moved do you know what the other team is that has never moved

but this is the so original team the original team yes sorry didn't clarify the New York next yeah yeah

You got it.

Yeah.

Celtics and Knicks.

A rare win for the Knicks.

All right.

Last but not least, Michael Jordan was picked second in the 1984 NBA draft.

I don't want to answer this question.

I don't want to talk about it.

Am I opening an old wound?

This is an old, this is a mortal wound.

No.

Hakeem Olajuwon at the time went first out of Houston.

Second, because we already had Clyde Drexler, who I think anyone would agree was a fantastic

shooting guard for a long time in the NBA.

Amazing.

Led the team to the finals.

Fantastic basketball player.

Went on to win a ring with the Houston Rockets.

Congratulations to him.

One of the rare dudes who lets himself go bald and still balls out of control in the

NBA, which I think LeBron should have done a long time ago.

Because we already had him, we took Sam Bowie second.

And Michael Jordan one third.

And then Michael Jordan one third.

And then Michael Jordan one third.

Much like Rasheed Wallace's Detroit career, I choose to sort of black out whatever happened

after that.

That's rough.

It hurt.

I wasn't even born yet and it still hurt.

Could you imagine two, three Pete's as a Blazer?

No, I honestly can't.

I can't either.

The cognitive dissonance makes my brain fall apart.

I can't do it.

It probably would have happened too, because we were so close just with Clyde Drexler.

We had an amazing team.

Kevin Duckworth.

Well, we got Buck Williams for Sam Bowie.

So we did that trade.

But we had like a good team.

We had a good basketball team.

Danny Ainge was on those teams.

It was weird.

No, I can't imagine that.

We also, if we're opening old wounds, took Greg Oden, another great Ohioan, over Kevin

Durant.

Yeah.

So your answer is false, because you knew who was picked second.

It was false.

Because your team was doing the choosing.

Most Blazers fans have that encoded into our DNA.

Tough.

Yeah, real tough.

Tough.

Well, actually, you did a really great job with the quiz, though, with the trivia.

Yeah.

I think you're ready for Jeopardy.

Thank you very much.

Whenever you'd like to go ahead and make your appearance there.

Yeah.

And with that, it's time for the second half.

Let's do it.

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So I want to talk a little bit about Late Late with James Corden.

Yeah.

Co-lead writer there.

That's right.

How did you guys meet?

We met not far from here, actually.

We met, I was so, I'm a stand-up comedian, too,

and I had written on Chelsea Handler's show for a year, right when I moved from Portland, Oregon,

top of the food chain, greatest city in the world, to Los Angeles.

I wrote for Chelsea lately, her show for a year, and then her show went off the air.

I loved that show.

It was so much fun.

It was really fun.

She's fantastic.

Shout out to Chelsea Handler.

So that was a blast.

That was like a great first experience.

It was a great experience learning how to be a TV writer and learning how to take the way I was finding on stage

and translate that into writing for other people.

And then I heard from my agent that this guy was taking over the Late Late show.

His name was James Corden.

I'd never heard of him.

Apparently, he was a big deal in the UK, and he had done some Broadway stuff.

So I went and met him, and what was supposed to be a half-hour meeting turned into almost just two hours

of just talking, making each other laugh.

We got along.

We got along like immediately, and I got the job there, and so I was one of the first three people who worked on the show.

I had that job before he even moved here, and now it'll be eight years in December.

It's amazing, and to get to have a job for like almost a decade in Hollywood is like pretty rare.

I was going to ask you about, too, your bachelor party in 90 seconds.

Oh, yeah.

I came across that video on YouTube.

And I was like, huh, what is this?

I was like, that was so good.

Oh, thank you so much.

Yeah.

It was hilarious.

And I also need to know, did you actually take five shots?

Was that alcohol?

No.

Okay.

It was fake.

Because that was the one part that was giving me a lot of anxiety.

No.

It's not beyond me to do five shots in the span of like 90 seconds.

But my wedding.

Like that was the Thursday.

My actual wedding was Sunday.

I wanted to make sure I look good in that suit.

I didn't want to be puffy.

I didn't want to do the thing that happens to me when I have five shots, which is I have five more, and then like a whole pizza that I fold over itself like a sandwich.

You know, I didn't want to like get into that territory a few days before my wedding.

Okay, stand-up.

Yes.

I want to ask you a little bit about that, because I feel like there's been a little bit of a wave of stand-up recently.

Yeah.

To where?

To where there's newcomers, but then there's people kind of that we alluded to earlier, who are trying to break the mold.

There are some comedians that are complaining that comedy is dying in a sense, and it's hard to talk about different things.

How do you feel about where stand-up and comedy in itself stands right now?

I think stand-up is in a really, really good place right now.

I'll talk about that like censorship stuff more in a second, but I think just like in general.

I think there's a lot going on.

I think there is a middle class forming in a way that like there didn't used to be.

This was like boring industry stuff.

I think like more people can make a living and tour and everything because of Patreon, because of YouTube, because of TikTok.

Definitely, you can get your stuff out to more people, and then you could sort of tour based off that.

Whereas before, you would like have, there were only a few different paths, like you had to try to get that HBO special.

You had to try to get that hour on Comedy Central, and then like build it up that way, and then hopefully you get a sitcom or something like that.

So in that way, I think you don't have to rely on the traditional gatekeepers and power brokers.

And I think that's amazing and wonderful and like so healthy for the business of it and also just for the art side of it.

I think the censorship stuff is so stupid.

I think everybody's, everyone's been saying you can't joke about anything anymore since people have been telling jokes.

There's literal newspaper headlines from like the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like about saying like. . .

People have gotten too sensitive.

People have gotten too sensitive.

And like, I just don't think that's happened at all.

You can say whatever you want.

What has changed is the people who don't like it have greater access to you.

And I think we're now in this like baby giraffe period where it's like kind of clumsy, where comedians for the first time are getting feedback that is something that's not just a drunk person yelling in a club.

They're getting people on Twitter, emailing them, even like organizing protests and stuff like that, saying, hey, we don't like that.

Saying, hey, we don't like when you joke about that.

And you have to, as a comedian then, decide how much of that you want to take seriously or how much of that you want to take into account.

Some people are just edgelords and want to go up on stage and just get a reaction from people.

And if you're expecting that, that's great.

You know what I mean?

If you want to go see like Anthony Jeselnik and you know you're going to go see an Anthony Jeselnik show and you're into that kind of thing, there's not a better night you're going to have.

You know what I mean?

But it's like you're somebody who's going to see a comedian.

And you're like, I'm going to go see a comedian, like somebody's going to go see a band.

And it turns out to be the best thrash metal band in the world.

But you were expecting somebody playing like Vivaldi's Four Seasons.

You're going to have a different kind of night.

You know what I mean?

So some of that's on the audience, too.

I think you're really right about the state of the internet right now, too, because everybody has a voice now.

Yes.

And you don't even get to see everybody.

I mean, we see how Twitter is.

We see how most of these social media platforms are.

Anybody can go into their comments.

Mine included.

Right.

There's some negativity that there always will be.

Always will be.

So it is kind of, I think you're right in knowing yourself, knowing your intention of your joke,

knowing your own life story because you aren't pulling the thing that you relate to.

Right.

But you're going to have to have thick skin as well just like being in that industry.

But I think that's where you're 100% right.

In anything where you're a public or a forward-facing individual at all, you're going to have that.

Who is your guaranteed laugh?

My favorite all-time comedian is Eddie Izzard.

She's amazing.

She's like such a fantastic comedian.

They have this special Dressed to Kill, and it was the funniest thing I'd ever seen in my life.

I didn't know I wanted to be a stand-up comedian, but I was like, whatever that is, is the best thing I've ever seen.

And then I worked my way backwards into doing it.

But as far as people who are kind of new and fun right now, I mean, these are boring answers, but like John Mulaney is amazing.

Bill Baer is amazing.

Maria Bamford is someone I will watch do stand-up.

Any time they feel like doing stand-up.

God, those are all guaranteed.

Kyle Kinane.

Yeah.

Matt Bronger is so funny.

My friend David Borey is an amazing stand-up comedian who I do a podcast with.

Yeah, there's so many.

Stand-up is in such a good place right now.

It's like Beth Stelling is so funny.

God, there's just so many funny comedians.

Do you have a GOAT of stand-up?

Oh, man.

The greatest.

For me, I mean, my greatest of all time is Eddie Izzard, but I think like Dave Chappelle.

There's no one who's done it better than Dave Chappelle.

Another Ohioan.

Another Ohioan.

A current Ohioan, too.

I know.

Salido, right?

Yeah.

Sorry, I got to rep for my stage.

Are you kidding me?

If any other Oregonian comes up during this at any point, you'll hear from me.

Kevin Love.

No, Oregonian, yeah.

Oregonian Kevin Love.

Terrence Davis, another.

But no, you said Chappelle.

Chappelle, Chris Rock is one of the greatest to ever do it.

Jerry Seinfeld is like truly amazing at it.

Bill Burr is like one of those people right now where you're like, all these people have

gotten to 10.

You know what I mean?

Very few people have like gotten to 10, and all these people have gotten to 10.

Brett Butler.

I know that's a weird poll, but like Brett Butler is like one of the funniest people

I've ever seen.

Roseanne, when she was doing stand-up.

That could be your starting five right there.

That's your starting five.

There it is right there.

That's my starting five on Courtside Club.

That's my starting five, yeah.

All right, fantastic.

Perfect.

We are reaching the end of the game, so I have some buzzer beaters for you.

Let's do it.

What is your ideal courtside food and drink combo?

Oh man, that's good.

I like, so okay, Portland, Oregon at the Moda Center.

They have a bunch of local restaurants that do food at the Moda Center, so if I can get

a pork belly Cubano.

Okay.

From Bunk Sandwiches.

If I'm doing one of those, and I'm doing like a domestic beer.

Not anything fancy.

Okay.

I don't want like an IPA.

It's going to make me too groggy.

It's going to make me feel heavy.

I want to save that room for the sandwich.

So just like whatever sort of like mass produced awful beer, I want to drink one of those.

We'll take it.

Yeah.

Those are the two.

Who is one person, dead or alive, that you would love to sit courtside with?

Oh my God.

Oh no.

There's just so much pressure.

I thought I'd be better at this.

See, I told you.

Yeah.

The buzzer beaters get everyone.

Dead or alive that I would want to sit courtside with.

I wanted to be Billy Crystal, and I'd like him to be alive.

Okay.

Yeah.

That's the first time I've had that answer.

Billy Crystal, great comedian, great Jewish comedian, one of the all-time funniest dudes.

I think he'd have a lot of great stories, and he's an authentic sports fan.

We would like him to be.

Yeah.

I think he'd have a lot of great stories, and he's an authentic sports fan.

We would like him to be.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Sorry.

That was just really funny.

And what is one event in history that you would have loved to have been courtside for?

Oh, that's a great...

It could be a sporting event.

Yeah.

Or something else.

Well, I mean, if I could go easy, it would be the Blazers winning the championship in

1977 over the Philadelphia 76ers, and I would like to be there courtside for that, and then

courtside for the parades all over Portland with Bill Walton riding a bicycle around.

With your domestic beer.

With my domestic beer.

Mm-hmm .

we're the only kind at that point.

Like a Henry Weinhardt

or something like that.

So I think that as far as like

easy answers go

and then I'm going to say

Cuban Missile Crisis

as far as like non-sporting events.

Just like that time period kind of?

I would want to be like

in the White House

when we were like

I think it would have been

knowing how it turned out

knowing that we didn't launch nukes

at Cuba or Russia

or any of that stuff.

Yeah.

But just like watching

JFK in that cabinet

deal with like

in those like 12 hours

where like that almost

popped off like that.

It would have been

I just would have been

I would have been eating

so much popcorn.

Yeah.

Soft pretzels.

Soft pretzels are my other

if I couldn't go local food option.

With yellow mustard.

Yellow mustard.

Soft pretzel.

Get out of town.

No but that would actually

be really interesting

just to be a fly on the wall

because you have no clue

what the president's talking about

during that time.

How close did we really get?

Right?

Yeah.

That's a good answer.

Thank you very much.

Very unique answer.

Thank you very much.

Ian thank you so much

for coming on the Courtside Club.

This was an

absolute pleasure.

Thank you so much for having me.

Yeah.

Where can our fans find you?

What should we be

on the lookout for?

Yes.

At Ian Carmel

on all the platforms.

Twitter, Instagram, TikTok.

Find me on all those.

I'm on TikTok now.

It's going great.

It's going great.

We'll tag you on TikTok.

Tag me on TikTok.

And also sometimes

you're Ian on Twitter.

Sometimes you're somebody else.

Oh.

Parentheses parody.

Oh yeah.

Sometimes I was

I was Kyra Irving

for about

for about

45 minutes on Twitter

the other day.

They were pretty fun

45 minutes.

Can I ask you really quick

before I let you go?

As many as you want.

Yeah.

Okay.

Of course.

Was that

did you do that for Kyrie

or did you do that

to troll Elon?

I did that for

I did it

it served multiple purposes.

He was promoting that video

he's promoting.

I'm a Jew.

I'm a

I'm a Jew

whose family

my grandparents

survived the Holocaust.

We were

you know

sorry to get serious

but like you know

we've been like

it's been

we've been subject

to serious

anti-Semitism

so I was like

how do our people

respond to

to problems?

Humor.

Let me try to have

as much fun as I can

pretending to be Kyrie

and I fired off

some fun tweets

as Kyrie

so that was mostly

just to like

just have some fun

with what I

what was like a heavy

very serious situation.

But it's very you.

I mean that's

that's how you

deal with a lot of things

like that's in your blood

to use comedy

to kind of share

what you did.

Any problem that comes along

I process it with comedy

which I'm sure my wife

would prefer I didn't

but it's just

it's what I have to do.

So we are

we are back to being

Ian on Twitter.

Fully Ian Carmel

although I've kept my picture

Kyrie Irving's weird

coexist peace sign.

Okay.

Just as a nod to it

and also I forgot

how to change my profile picture.

Not to be confused

by the profile pic.

Still have the blue

check mark now

but we'll be on lookout

for all your socials.

Yes.

Any other shows

that you're doing?

Oh listen to my podcast

All Fantasy Everything.

We'd love to have you

on my podcast

All Fantasy Everything.

Yeah.

I think you would

like it.

We fantasy draft

non-sports things.

Oh so fun.

So if you want to come

like fantasy draft

sandwiches or great

you know what you can do?

Come on and we'll draft

people from Ohio.

A thousand percent down

for that.

So many presidents

from Ohio by the way.

I think the most

presidents are from Ohio.

Listen Ohio is the

heart of America.

It's the beating

heart of America.

Literally.

Yeah.

Shaped like a heart.

It's shaped like a heart.

It's right there.

Rock and roll

Hall of Fame.

I've been.

Had a great time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Football Hall of Fame.

I've been to the

Football Hall of Fame.

Had a great time there.

You?

Swenson's.

Not familiar.

Burger Place.

We'll take you when you come.

Okay.

Anyway we'll be

we'll listen to your podcast.

And we'll tune into your

socials for other shows.

Tune into my socials.

Watch the Late Late Show.

Perfect.

Celebrate life.

Thank you so much Ian.

My pleasure.

That was fun.

Yeah.

Cool.

High five.

Firm high five.